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    One of the mysteries of the assassination, was if there was a conspiracy, why didn't a co-conspirator tell Oswald to buy a decent rifle, like a M-1 Garand or spot him the $10-15 bucks necessary to buy a better rifle then what he did purchase. Another such question, is if you believe there was a conspiracy, why didn't the co-conspirators transport Oswald out of town to an immediate shallow grave rather then letting him make his own short lived escape. Yes I know Jack Ruby shot Oswald, but that put him into captivity, whereas a drive to nowhere would have solved that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryjoe View Post
    I said I wasn't convinced. They did lose JFK's brain. How do you do that?

    Don't start an argument about marksmanship. You're not qualified to speak from experience. You may think so. Your last sentence says otherwise.
    Come on, be read about it on the Internet. Surely he knows more than Steve Reichert on the matter of Marksmanship.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XDa3kyncE8
    I'm surprised this file got out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtnira View Post
    I find it interesting that Oswald's vocalization of innocence is consistent,.
    It's really not, and this is key. When you take into account everything he said beforehand, including what's been recorded, and put him in Dallas that day, you can't avoid the fact that he spent his last years acting as an anti-American operative, and loudly at that.

    He also tried to kill a US general with the same rifle, according to his wife.

    Innocent? Not on your life. The newly released files prove that beyond reasonable doubt. Unless of course, you don't trust anything anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    It's really not, and this is key. When you take into account everything he said beforehand, including what's been recorded, and put him in Dallas that day, you can't avoid the fact that he spent his last years acting as an anti-American operative, and loudly at that.

    He also tried to kill a US general with the same rifle, according to his wife.

    Innocent? Not on your life. The newly released files prove that beyond reasonable doubt. Unless of course, you don't trust anything anymore.
    You're confusing innocent with not making the killing shot. Possibly he was a pawn. Possibly not. No doubt he was not innocent. There is doubt by some he was not alone. Color me in that group. Having doubts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Browning View Post
    One of the mysteries of the assassination, was if there was a conspiracy, why didn't a co-conspirator tell Oswald to buy a decent rifle, like a M-1 Garand or spot him the $10-15 bucks necessary to buy a better rifle then what he did purchase. Another such question, is if you believe there was a conspiracy, why didn't the co-conspirators transport Oswald out of town to an immediate shallow grave rather then letting him make his own short lived escape. Yes I know Jack Ruby shot Oswald, but that put him into captivity, whereas a drive to nowhere would have solved that problem.
    They needed a fall guy. Somone that peoples rage could be directed to. The whole thing was strange, if oswald was a communist. Why kill a president that was accused of also being one? Then you have jack ruby who had alot of shady connections who shoots oswald. Ruby later contracts cancer and dies in prison 2 years later.

    None of this matters anymore sorta like how they keep making documentries about princess diana's death.

    If kennedy was topped brcause they thought he was a red, they failed miserably. The US has more commie sympathisers now more than ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryjoe View Post
    You're confusing innocent with not making the killing shot. Possibly he was a pawn. Possibly not. No doubt he was not innocent. There is doubt by some he was not alone. Color me in that group. Having doubts.
    Forensics have consistently shown the killing shots were from the 6th floor of the TSBD.

    Right now conspiracy theorists online are pushing the same thing about Vegas, and that's bullshit too. Building stories on the evidence is one thing, but when building stories based on possibilities there's no boundary. Imagination is limitless.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27705829/n...theories-rest/

    These are very detailed accounts of all the forensic testimony.

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/headwnd.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    It's really not, and this is key. When you take into account everything he said beforehand, including what's been recorded, and put him in Dallas that day, you can't avoid the fact that he spent his last years acting as an anti-American operative, and loudly at that.

    He also tried to kill a US general with the same rifle, according to his wife.

    Innocent? Not on your life. The newly released files prove that beyond reasonable doubt. Unless of course, you don't trust anything anymore.
    It is funny because many people here believe that people should own gun to fight the potential "tyrant", but then when one guy gets his rifle and shoots whom he believes is a tyrant, you don't like this all that much.

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    Another doc dump, today:
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...117-story.html

    Quote Originally Posted by tfa
    The National Archives said 8,336 documents are being released in their entirety and 2,408 are released with limited redactions. A total of 144 records are being released for the first time.
    So, definitely some new stuff. Presumably, these are the docs that Trump allowed to be held back for additional security review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMR View Post
    It is funny because many people here believe that people should own gun to fight the potential "tyrant", but then when one guy gets his rifle and shoots whom he believes is a tyrant, you don't like this all that much.
    John F. Kennedy wasn't a tyrant by any measure. A lot of gun-owning Americans would have gladly given their lives for JFK.

    Jack Ruby did, post-humously.

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