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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo salvatore View Post
    Well when it comes to Orthodox spiritual level, he meant that certain arts are not based in spirituality and most common type of spirituality is OC in Serbia.

    He said Israelis but I translated it as Jews, even if he said Jews....so what. He also said that they respect them all.
    The point is pretending religion or supposed history of an art has anything to do with quantifying the effectiveness of a MA is fundamentally wrong and biased on a very deeply flawed level and points to other biases and nonsense. As is translating "Israelis" as "Jews". I am pretty sure not all Israelis are Jews and not all Jews are Israelis. They are different words for a reason and it has nothing to do with how effective a martial art is.
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    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
    “I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
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    Slamming the man in the bottom position from time to time keeps everybody on their toes and discourages butt scooting stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey View Post
    The point is pretending religion or supposed history of an art has anything to do with quantifying the effectiveness of a MA is fundamentally wrong and biased on a very deeply flawed level and points to other biases and nonsense. As is translating "Israelis" as "Jews". I am pretty sure not all Israelis are Jews and not all Jews are Israelis. They are different words for a reason and it has nothing to do with how effective a martial art is.
    I am 99% sure that they thought Jews. I agree on the other part.

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    9. FOLK WRESTLING

    Narodno rvanje (lit. folk wrestling ) is a style of traditional wrestling in Serbia.
    In Narodno rvanje it is usual to begin a match with opponents stepping into the ring and taking one of the following holds :
    Back hold : the wrestlers lock the arms behind opponents back in full fingers grip.
    Belt hold : the wrestlers grab each other's belts or pants.
    Chest hold : this hold has two variations:
    The wrestlers start by putting their arms on the side of their opponent's chest, or
    Right arm on the side of their opponent's chest and hold opponent's right elbow with their left arm.
    But the opponents may disengage from the holds and start as it is usual in other styles such as Greco-Roman wrestling depending on the rules of the tournament. The objective is to throw and pin your opponent to the ground. All types of throws are legal, and even double leg take-down can be seen. And on some festivals the wrestlers may even wear traditional clothing from their respective area as effort to preserve cultur

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo salvatore View Post
    "Goal of training Serbian System (SS)
    Not thinking about jews at all...

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    10. NAUKA


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    Quote Originally Posted by DCS View Post
    Not thinking about jews at all...
    hahahaha

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    11. ODBRANA

    http://www.odbrana.com/about/

    TACTICAL SELF DEFENSE SYSTEM
    in HAND TO HAND COMBAT

    Odbrana is a realistic self defense, tactical and hand to hand combat system of suppressive measures designed specifically for military, police, security, kids, adult and women.

    Odbrana is extremely effective and applicable in everyday situations to demobilise an attacker on contact with little effort. It involves a combination of strikes, kicks, blocks, chokes, locks, throws and submissions. Unlike other forms of self defense from around the world, Odbrana teaches the individual to defend himself against multiple attackers with or without weapons from numerous vulnerable positions while under constant stress. It teaches the individual to always be aware of his surroundings and to act with caution. The individual is trained in situations with the emphasis on survival rather than retreat. In addition to hand to hand combat, the individual is also trained in the disarming of guns, rifles, knives, bats, batons etc. There are no age, weight or height requirements in practicing Odbrana. Odbrana is very convenient for adults, women, and is perfect for children’s psycho physical development and mobility.


    vladimir mr.v djordjevic odbrana real aikido
    Creator of ODBRANA is Vladimir Mr.V Djordjevic, ODBRANA Chief Instructor of Real Aikido, Jiu Jitsu and Tactical Training for more then a decade in USA, Canada and South America. Vladimir Mr.V Djordjevic, U.S. citizen of Serbian descent, was inducted into the U.S. Martial Arts Hall of Fame 5 times and holds a 6. DAN in Real Aikido, 6. DAN in Jiu Jitsu and a 7. DAN in Aiki Jujitsu.

    With 34 years of martial arts dedication, Vladimir Djordjevic has gone on to win numerous championships in many associations and federations world wide. (USNTF, Arnold martial arts world games, etc.)

    At The United States Martial Arts Hall Of Fame, Mr.V held a seminars with the most recognized martial artist to date, like Master Fumio Demura, Bill “Superfoot” Wallace, Don “The Dragon” Wilson, Frank Shamrock, Masaaki Hatsumi, Richard Bustillo, “Judo” Gene Lebell, Wally Jay, Fusei Kise, Pan Qing Fu, John Pellegrini, Jeong Seong Kim, Carlos Machado, Paul Vunak, Mark Shuey Sr., GM Russell McCartney, Dr. Dan Netherland, etc.

    Vladimir Mr.V Djordjevic has served in the Serbian Military police and Anti-Terrorist Unit. He was a Head of Security team for Netherlands Embassy & Central Committee Tower in Belgrade, Serbia. (early ’90s under Komet Tim Company) As combat and tactical instructor, Vladimir has singled out hundreds of the original techniques and purified them to effectively take complete control of a hostile situation.

    He has been featured on CBS2 TV as the most recognized rape prevention instructor to date. He is an Ambassador of martial arts, an internationally recognized referee and very well respected as one of the main instructors for numerous military units and law enforcement agencies worldwide.



    • Vladimir is currently finishing Self Defense / Hand To Hand Combat book ” Our Way ” on English and Serbian language, that should be coming out at the end of 2015.

    • He is intensively teaching Odbrana techniques for self defense and tactical training used by: law enforcement agencies, military, bodyguard schools, security companies, civilians, etc.

    • He produces fight scenes for movies scenes located in Midwest and South Florida area.

    • He was inducted into ” 2002 Hall Of Fame “

    • Action Martial Arts Magazine’s Hall Of Fame 2003 – ” Excellence in Teaching of the Martial Arts “.

    • U.S. Martial Arts Hall of Fame 2003 – ” Distinguished Master Instructor of the Year “.

    • Martial Arts Association – International – ” Ambassador of the MAA “

    • Lifetime member of United States Martial Arts Association, World Center of Real Aikido, Combat Martial Arts Practitioners Association, NAPMA, International Narcotic Enforcement Officers Association, etc.

    • 11th USNTF International Championship 2003 – Adult Champion

    • Arnold Martial Arts World Games 2004 – Gold Medallist (Self Defense)

    • IMACOF – Certified Defensive Tactics Instructor

    • US Martial Art Hall Of Fame 2004 – ” Most Distinguished Law Enforcement Trainer Of The Year “

    • AKA GRAND Nationals & WSKF 2004 – BB Divisions-1st.Place (Self-Defense)

    • Head Referee for MMA, Jujitsu, Kick Boxing and Self-Defense in numerous associations & federations, nation & worldwide. (WAKO, USNTF, AKA, WSKF, Arnold MAWG, CMAPA, WKA, AJA, etc)

    • CBS 2 Chicago, The Best Rape – Prevention Instructor.

    • U.S. and Illinois Head representative of KIAI, JJFS, ISCA, SBC, EJJU, etc.

    • U.S. Martial Arts Hall Of Fame 2005 – 2015 Training Camp Instructor – Rape Prevention

    • U.S. Martial Arts Hall Of Fame 2006 – 2015 Training Camp Instructor – Self Defense

    • Odbrana Seminars (Self Defense, Tactical Training, Real Aikido, KickBoxing) in USA, Canada, South America 1999 – 2015

    Odbrana is the primal instinct in all of us that makes itself known when a threat is present….

    Vladimir Mr.V Djordjevic, Chief Instructor

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    12. PROTECTO

    http://e-martialart.com/about

    Learn Online Today!
    This is your first step in an exciting new challenge – becoming a professional martial art performer! Nenad Ikras is ready to share his mastery and knowledge, and hopes that you will join him in reaching for the very highest standards.
    Why you should choose PROTECTO?

    It's easy!
    You can succeed in the training without leaving your home, even if you never tried a single martial art's class in your life.
    It's effective!
    PROTECTO will make you feel safe and give you the confidence to protect your family and friends in risky situations. Training will exercise all joints and muscle groups. Regular lessons will improve your health and body conditions.
    It's unique!
    PROTECTO is based on Nenad Ikras’ idea: if an attack is in progress – defense must move on too and adapt to the current situation.
    As a PROTECTO online system member, you will learn:

    How to protect yourself against the most common attacks and weapons such as knifes, guns, baseball bats etc.
    How to immediately gain the advantage in real street fighting situations
    How to develop your fighting skills, speed and reaction
    The e-learning videos have been developed so you will be able to see and learn the system from different angles, in slow motion and close up.
    ABOUT THE TECHNIQUE

    PROTECTO: your guide to self-defense mastery.

    Which martial art is the best for self-defense? It sounds like a simple question. The problem is that there is no right answer. There exists a variety of different styles and disciplines of martial arts, each one of them has its own specific technique and form. You could spend years trying to obtain just the basics. Aikido, whing chun, jiu jitsu, judo... Each of these martial arts has its own strong and weak sides. But there are elements that you will miss while training with only one martial art technique. These missing elements have played a crucial role in the developing of the PROTECTO system.

    KEY FACTS ABOUT PROTECTO:

    The founder of PROTECTO, Nenad Ikras modified several hundred techniques and gave them new approach. He transformed ancient fighting art into a modern self-defense system.
    It is an authentic self-defense martial art, which is extremely efficient and can be used in every-day realistic situations.
    It provides a wonderful blend of tradition and competitiveness and brings self-respect and discipline.
    PROTECTO was developed for the beginners, who have never tried fighting sport before, as well as for the professional fighters, who want to improve their skills.
    Everyone is highly encouraged – regardless of his or her athletic level.
    Can PROTECTO be learned by everyone? 100% YES! PROTECTO is easy and quick to learn, regardless of age, gender and physical condition.

    It is an easy and dynamic system for beginners.
    Professional fighters will benefit from it too, because it offers them efficient techniques based on the best achievements of martial arts.
    It is excellent for women’s self-defense.
    It can be used for police training.
    It is a positive and fun system for training children.
    It will teach your children self-defense and improve their self-esteem.
    PROTECTO E-LEARNING SYSTEM

    It's about training that applies to your life.
    It's about training that will change your life.
    It's about training that allows you to defend yourself.
    It's about training that allows you to defend your family and friends.
    It's about training that will make you stronger, faster and healthier.
    It's about a way of life which will introduce you to the philosophy and culture of martial arts.
    Stop thinking: “I'll never be able to do that” and start right now with Nenad Ikras!
    PROTECTO DESCRIPTION

    PROTECTO is made to introduce students in the inner secrets of the martial art. It’s not a secret that martial arts contribute to physical and spiritual development. PROTECTO will test your spirit and character by the innovative fighting technique. The system is meant for all individuals who want to learn the real-life, practical self-defense skills and achieve a greater level of health and well-being. Observing PROTECTO system in action, your eyes and imagination are hypnotized by the dynamic movements and visible power of this technique. And don't forget the big potential hidden in these graceful and flowing motions. Unlike others martial arts, the focus in the PROTECTO system is placed not on the victory, but on the tactics of outdoor battles. The Powerful and dynamic PROTECTO is a wonderful style which can be pursued throughout your life. It will teach you how to attain maximum potential in a real-life situation.

    PROTECTO don’t mainly focus on punching attackers, but rather on using their own energy to gain control of them. You will be able to defend yourself against a stronger and bigger opponent. Your weapon against the opponent will be his own strength. With practical PROTECTO training system, you will learn how to prevent and overcome all kinds of attacks and violence. PROTECTO is not a static martial art system. Great emphasis is placed on motion and the dynamics of movement. Speaking about the technical side of PROTECTO, it is rooted in several styles of traditional martial arts, such as Aikido, Whing Chun, Jiu Jitsu, Judo. The system combines quick hand strikes, sweeps and throws and brutal elbow and knee strikes. PROTECTO is the result of its founder Nenad Ikras own innovation. It is his life style, work and inspiration, as well as his contribution to the development of the world self-defense techniques. This makes PROTECTO to be one of the most capable and profound martial arts systems today.

    BIOGRAPHY

    “Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee...” That was how Muhammad Ali saw the perfect fighter's style. Such words will certainly come to your mind when you see the professional mixed martial artist Nenad Ikras in action. He is young. He is strong. He is passionate about martial arts. Nenad Ikras became famous for technical precision and dynamic style. Nenad is no ordinary fighter - he simply does things that other fighters don't do. And here's his story.

    Nenad Ikras was born on August 9, 1988 in Subotica, in Serbia. At first, he started to learn aikido in Novi Sad under the guidance of the great master Dragan Jagodic. The ranks of this man speak better than words: 4th DAN Real Aikido, ju jutsu black belt 1st DAN and Tae Kwon Do master. During the next few years Nenad participated in several seminars and International summer schools of Real Aikido, where he met masters such as Bratislav Stajic (8th DAN Real Aikido) and Grandmaster Ljubomir Vracarevic (founder and creator of Real Aikido).

    In 2007 Nenad participated for the first time in European Martial Arts Hall of Fame, where he demonstrated a dynamic and unique technique along with other masters: Russell McCartney - Sword systems 10th DAN (SAD), Dan Netherland - AIKI BO JUTSU 10 Dan Soke and Vuk Rašović - JUDO 9th DAN. Thanks to his great talent and hard work, Nenad Ikras became the first assistant of his master Dragan Jagodic and helped him to train other students in the club of Real Aikido.

    2009 was an important year in Nenad's career – He received recognition from master Konstantin Kitzu (founder and master 10 DAN SOKE of AIKIZENDO & AIKISYSTEMA) for establishing his own fighting system called PROTECTO. Nenad continued polishing his mastery and the same year he received 2nd DAN from aikizendo & aikisystema, a license to teach and train others.

    Being master in various techniques, Nenad wanted to create something defensive and dynamic. He is a talented and skilled fighter, and he understands that only a combination of different techniques makes you really powerful and invulnerable. This is a unique feature about Nenad Ikras. In order to succeed, he isolated ten main techniques from traditional martial arts and refined them through implementation of his personal knowledge. As a result we have PROTECTO.

    PROTECTO is a system of self-defense techniques with the following basic characteristics: speed and timely reaction, continuity in execution of a technique and absolute final control over an attacker, supported by specific movements. PROTECTO is an authentic self-defense martial art, which is extremely efficient and applicable in every-day realistic situations.

    Today Nenad Ikras continues trainings, fully committed and determined to get better day by day, learning from other martial arts masters from all around the World. He is ready to share his experience and mastery with others and to teach you how to protect yourself and increase your self-esteem.

    What truly sets him apart from others martial arts performers is his talent and passion when it comes to teaching and mentoring.

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    13. SVIBOR

    It is simmilar to HEMA http://www.svibor.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo salvatore View Post
    Narodno rvanje (lit. folk wrestling ) is a style of traditional wrestling in Serbia.
    In Narodno rvanje it is usual to begin a match with opponents stepping into the ring and taking one of the following holds :
    Back hold : the wrestlers lock the arms behind opponents back in full fingers grip.
    Belt hold : the wrestlers grab each other's belts or pants.
    Chest hold : this hold has two variations:
    The wrestlers start by putting their arms on the side of their opponent's chest, or
    Right arm on the side of their opponent's chest and hold opponent's right elbow with their left arm.
    But the opponents may disengage from the holds and start as it is usual in other styles such as Greco-Roman wrestling depending on the rules of the tournament. The objective is to throw and pin your opponent to the ground. All types of throws are legal, and even double leg take-down can be seen. And on some festivals the wrestlers may even wear traditional clothing from their respective area as effort to preserve cultur
    I'm always for wrestling, well unless it's that Turkish oil wrestling. That one is pretty wild and I would have to pass. But legit, folk wrestling, two thumbs up. Unless it's super weird which is a possibility with anything called "Folk ____".
    Combatives training log.

    Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

    Drum thread

    Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.

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