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    I am looking for some advice on how to push the action a little more in stand up. Rather than the standard lower belt heavyweights matches where you push your opponent lol. I'm trying to get more aggressive and I don't have much luck. I do watch videos and see what lower weights do, but I feel like in a jiujitsu match that the heavyweights are much more cautious and looking for counters. Almost to the point of passiveness. Constantly waiting to sprawl a frustrated opponent and so on. I even noticed this in my tournament.

    So. What are some ways I can get more aggressive with my takedowns? Footsweeps are a given. But I feel like I also need to threaten other takedowns as well. If you got videos for me to watch I would love to see them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by remington50 View Post
    I am looking for some advice on how to push the action a little more in stand up. Rather than the standard lower belt heavyweights matches where you push your opponent lol. I'm trying to get more aggressive and I don't have much luck. I do watch videos and see what lower weights do, but I feel like in a jiujitsu match that the heavyweights are much more cautious and looking for counters. Almost to the point of passiveness. Constantly waiting to sprawl a frustrated opponent and so on. I even noticed this in my tournament.

    So. What are some ways I can get more aggressive with my takedowns? Footsweeps are a given. But I feel like I also need to threaten other takedowns as well. If you got videos for me to watch I would love to see them.


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    How tall are you? This will affect my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramirezmma View Post
    How tall are you? This will affect my advice.
    6'0 even. You could use me as a measuring stick lol. I'm 270 weight too. So some guys I'm against are string beans in high weight and others are solid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramirezmma View Post
    How tall are you? This will affect my advice.
    Or, more specifically, how tall are you relative to the people you are playing?

    Some takedowns are better for a tall person to do on a shorter person, and some favor a shorter person over a taller person.

    That said, in the heavyweight division, a couple of common things to combine with your footsweeps

    Kuchiki Taoshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETufDNA5SNw

    If you are shorter than the people you play, Tai Otoshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IpweRu1KB0
    If you are taller than them, Harai Goshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhLjnI1l44

    There are other things, but this should get you started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcerTempest View Post
    Or, more specifically, how tall are you relative to the people you are playing?

    Some takedowns are better for a tall person to do on a shorter person, and some favor a shorter person over a taller person.

    That said, in the heavyweight division, a couple of common things to combine with your footsweeps

    Kuchiki Taoshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETufDNA5SNw

    If you are shorter than the people you play, Tai Otoshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IpweRu1KB0
    If you are taller than them, Harai Goshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhLjnI1l44

    There are other things, but this should get you started.
    Thank you. Definitely looking at that Judo single leg. Someone showed me that the other day. I tend to have trouble with stiff arms...mainly just that they are constant in my weight class. I'm learning how to deal with those right now (I don't like someone stay stiff armed on me with a hand inside my collar).


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    Quote Originally Posted by remington50 View Post
    I am looking for some advice on how to push the action a little more in stand up. Rather than the standard lower belt heavyweights matches where you push your opponent lol. I'm trying to get more aggressive and I don't have much luck. I do watch videos and see what lower weights do, but I feel like in a jiujitsu match that the heavyweights are much more cautious and looking for counters. Almost to the point of passiveness. Constantly waiting to sprawl a frustrated opponent and so on. I even noticed this in my tournament.

    So. What are some ways I can get more aggressive with my takedowns? Footsweeps are a given. But I feel like I also need to threaten other takedowns as well. If you got videos for me to watch I would love to see them.


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    Practice Judo and Wrestling...

    When pushed, rotate and explore the effect of the angles and weak lines of the rotational opportunity, combined with level changes.

    Many take downs are a matter of impeding or rotating your opponent's hip, and in many cases putting them on one leg, or otherwise utilizing an opportunity to attack a half man or uni-ped instead of a full human bi-ped with equally distributed weight on their strong lines of support.

    Study posture, how to move your feet, and move your feet as much as you can so you learn how that works.

    Fall a lot. Find a training partner who will trade takedown turns with you while moving, in a manner than does not harm either of you, 10,000 times or so (to start).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFMurphyPhD View Post
    works.

    Fall a lot. Find a training partner who will trade takedown turns with you while moving, in a manner than does not harm either of you, 10,000 times or so (to start).
    The good Doctor makes a wonderful point here. Dont send your training partners throw the mat..... you will run out of ukes

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    The good Doctor makes a wonderful point here. Dont send your training partners throw the mat..... you will run out of ukes
    Yea. That is actually an issue in my class. One guy in my class is my weight class. He is older and is not as spry when it comes to doing takedowns. I think it has hurt his game tbh because he is scared to hit the mat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AcerTempest View Post
    Or, more specifically, how tall are you relative to the people you are playing?

    Some takedowns are better for a tall person to do on a shorter person, and some favor a shorter person over a taller person.

    That said, in the heavyweight division, a couple of common things to combine with your footsweeps

    Kuchiki Taoshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETufDNA5SNw

    If you are shorter than the people you play, Tai Otoshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IpweRu1KB0
    If you are taller than them, Harai Goshi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhLjnI1l44

    There are other things, but this should get you started.
    I have been using a variation of the first one in training. I like it. I am going to work more single legs and foot sweeps to see the effect.


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    The good Doctor makes a wonderful point here. Dont send your training partners throw the mat..... you will run out of ukes
    And by throw ...... I mean through. .....

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