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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    Yeah, I have a natural dislike for crowds. This **** only makes it worse. I could be prideful and take the “U cain’t **** wit me. I’m uhmerucun” attitude but I choose to let my brain do the driving instead of my ego.
    I think you and your ego as as arbitrary as always.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    You’re probably right. Nobody wants to socialize with the boss. It’s lonely at the bottom.
    Fixed. Ego driving, yes, but the position of you or your brain on the food chain....nope. You're shark chum like everyone else.

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    Sorry, PDA, were you trolling? I'm curious because waiting days for agenda driven remarks pretty much ended over a decade ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by submessenger View Post
    Settle down, Bill Nye. I can tell the difference.
    There were multiple early reports of multiple shooters (probably due to the echo effect). Plus, how many people really are familiar with full-auto fire vs bump fire vs just pulling trigger really fast on semi-auto rifle (or pistol for that matter)?

    Not many, and not me, as I've never been around full auto/select fire weapons.

    So, go figure, people are running around, screaming, yelling, and someone is shooting rapid fire in your direction. Like most folks can sort all of that out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    I bet they are, Pshit. I bet they are.
    I heard Poopship outlasted you on Bullshido for a while and you rage quit over it.

    The least you could have done was return with panache, but here you are, same old Devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by submessenger View Post
    Settle down, Bill Nye. I can tell the difference.
    You're working from recordings and media, which are recreations full of ambient noise, echo effects... You can't trust what you hear on the tape based on your firsthand experience in the field....hearing vs. reviewing media are different things.

    I agreed with you that when all is said and done, there was no automatic fire at all, this was semi-automatic fire used by someone very fast/skilled with the weapon.

    The Las Vegas strip is different than what you're probably used to hearing (unless you can point to past experience with military operations in a desert, based, casino-rich environment).

    When you stand on the Vegas strip, you can hear echoes from way down the strip because of how sound travels between the buildings. Las Vegas Boulevard is literally a big echo chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    There were multiple early reports of multiple shooters (probably due to the echo effect). Plus, how many people really are familiar with full-auto fire vs bump fire vs just pulling trigger really fast on semi-auto rifle (or pistol for that matter)?

    Not many, and not me, as I've never been around full auto/select fire weapons.

    So, go figure, people are running around, screaming, yelling, and someone is shooting rapid fire in your direction. Like most folks can sort all of that out...
    Yes, but subs isn't talking about those people making mistakes. His assessment was called into question by a certain guy and as usual he engenders sarcasm, insults and apathy in the responses.

    See above post for further proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Anyway, it's not a good way to shoot very accurately.
    When you're across the Boulevard from a crowd of 30,000 people, you don't need to be accurate. It's not possible that he was selecting individual targets from that range. He was just dumping bullets on a pile of people, and if you've even been to that location you can see how the 32nd floor of the Bay was an ideal perch.

    Given the time frame of the attack, the range, the power of the rifle, and the fact that he's shooting downward at a huge mass of people, it's amazing more people weren't killed.

    He was only able to murder about 1 person for every 4 shots he took (the 59th died hours ago), but that's just rough math.

    The Strip is shut down, and from the looks of it, it's one of the largest crime scenes since 9/11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Yes, but subs isn't talking about those people making mistakes. His assessment was called into question by a certain guy and as usual he engenders sarcasm, insults and apathy in the responses.

    See above post for further proof.
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    That was not full auto. I'd be interested in hearing how any acoustics would make the perceived cyclical rate very much slower.

    Yes, I've rocked full auto, a lot.

    Edit

    Went back and re-read Wabbit's post. No full auto. Check. Don't get to argue the point. Sad face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    You're working from recordings and media, which are recreations full of ambient noise, echo effects... You can't trust what you hear on the tape based on your firsthand experience in the field....hearing vs. reviewing media are different things.

    I agreed with you that when all is said and done, there was no automatic fire at all, this was semi-automatic fire used by someone very fast/skilled with the weapon.

    The Las Vegas strip is different than what you're probably used to hearing (unless you can point to past experience with military operations in a desert, based, casino-rich environment).

    When you stand on the Vegas strip, you can hear echoes from way down the strip because of how sound travels between the buildings. Las Vegas Boulevard is literally a big echo chamber.
    Yeah, been there, multiple times. I stayed on the 13th floor of MB a couple years back, by request. Wrong side of the building to be sniping rednecks from, but I had a nice view of McCarran. Biden flew in while I was watching the airfield. That was a spectacle.

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