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    CBP now demanding passwords to your social media accounts when you enter the US

    I'm surprised there's not more outcry over this. Apparently CBP is seizing devices and demanding social media account passwords when people enter the US. This certainly isn't going to help tourism to the US. Or what about business travel? Can you imagine business travelers being arm twisted into giving up passwords to business accounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin View Post
    I'm surprised there's not more outcry over this. Apparently CBP is seizing devices and demanding social media account passwords when people enter the US. This certainly isn't going to help tourism to the US. Or what about business travel? Can you imagine business travelers being arm twisted into giving up passwords to business accounts?

    https://www.wired.com/2017/02/guide-...rivacy-intact/
    It’s an interesting article which I suspect is going to impact a number of travellers to the US especially if they have a profile that might involve CPS making more detailed enquiries (e.g. either from or have visited certain Middle Eastern countries).

    I appreciate that the US wants to guard its borders and if people don’t want to comply with US security then tough – you ain’t getting in.

    However, I think the point about business people is a good one – lots of business people visit countries in the Middle East for perfectly legitimate business reasons. They may not want to divulge (or be able to under their companies security regulations). It does seem to be a grey area (I think) without clear legislation.

    I’m due to visit the US in a few weeks for my annual bass fishing trip, I don’t have anything to hide but I really don’t want to give out details of my social media accounts, I’m tempted to bring along a “vanilla” tablet with just a new email account and a few friends addresses in it rather than my usual devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scipio View Post
    It’s an interesting article which I suspect is going to impact a number of travellers to the US especially if they have a profile that might involve CPS making more detailed enquiries (e.g. either from or have visited certain Middle Eastern countries).

    I appreciate that the US wants to guard its borders and if people don’t want to comply with US security then tough – you ain’t getting in.

    However, I think the point about business people is a good one – lots of business people visit countries in the Middle East for perfectly legitimate business reasons. They may not want to divulge (or be able to under their companies security regulations). It does seem to be a grey area (I think) without clear legislation.

    I’m due to visit the US in a few weeks for my annual bass fishing trip, I don’t have anything to hide but I really don’t want to give out details of my social media accounts, I’m tempted to bring along a “vanilla” tablet with just a new email account and a few friends addresses in it rather than my usual devices.
    Hahahahahaaaaa they might demand your bullshido password.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin View Post
    I'm surprised there's not more outcry over this. Apparently CBP is seizing devices and demanding social media account passwords when people enter the US. This certainly isn't going to help tourism to the US. Or what about business travel? Can you imagine business travelers being arm twisted into giving up passwords to business accounts?

    https://www.wired.com/2017/02/guide-...rivacy-intact/
    I crossed the border 4 times already this week. Nobody on the US side mentioned anything about passwords. I just show them my passport card, they ask me if I have any fruit or vegetables, or anything to declare, and I'm on my way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
    Hahahahahaaaaa they might demand your bullshido password.
    Hmmm, hadn't thought of that. I might cancel my trip....

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    Just one other thing, my ESTA ran out this year so I applied for another one for my forthcoming trip - there is now a field on there asking you for details of your social media accounts. It is however voluntary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scipio View Post
    Just one other thing, my ESTA ran out this year so I applied for another one for my forthcoming trip - there is now a field on there asking you for details of your social media accounts. It is however voluntary.
    Just think though, if you have said anything negative about Trump you could end up in gitmo. Or at least harassed for a few hours. This isn't a joke either they detained Ali Jr. for like 2 hours. He's a celebrity for fucks sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
    Just think though, if you have said anything negative about Trump you could end up in gitmo. Or at least harassed for a few hours. This isn't a joke either they detained Ali Jr. for like 2 hours. He's a celebrity for fucks sake.
    I had thought of that in light of some of my recent posts on Facebook. At least the weather in Gitmo would be better than the UK at the moment. Plus you get to wear one of those snazzy orange outfits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scipio View Post
    I had thought of that in light of some of my recent posts on Facebook. At least the weather in Gitmo would be better than the UK at the moment. Plus you get to wear one of those snazzy orange outfits.
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    So what happens if you put your accounts on private settings, and say you're not on social media? If they call you on it, you weren't on social media when they asked you, so it wasn't a lie.

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