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    Quote Originally Posted by baby_cart View Post
    5. both places heavy importance on Ki (ki-kokyu in aikido, sakki in the buj).
    Wait. You don't use ki?

    How the Hell are you supposed to break someone's Closed Guard without the Kaio Ken?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baby_cart View Post
    the similarities between aikido and the buj is that

    3. they both claim ninja powers (the aikido one came from a book by john stevens, writing that performing one ninja technique shortens the lifespan so doing it for play is a no-no).
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    Any chance you can dig up this quote, or at least cite the book in question?

    I would love to actually read this, especially in context, because I anticipate it being highly entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrouchyOldMan View Post
    Any chance you can dig up this quote, or at least cite the book in question?
    Abundant Peace by John Stevens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baby_cart View Post
    3. they both claim ninja powers (the aikido one came from a book by john stevens, writing that performing one ninja technique shortens the lifespan so doing it for play is a no-no).
    Ahhh...the old "Dangerous Forbidden Technique / Power At a Price" trope.

    Ninjas ARE referenced, too. Lovely.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...iddenTechnique

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    so to get back to my analysis... I've convinced after the BJJ was added to my dojo that Aikido truly is just a further watered down jujitsu. When we're doing the BJJ classes, we also have stand up and self defense drills that feel more like applied jujitsu that has some cross over with joint locks Ive seen in aikido/judo/bujinkan but done under higher resistence, exactly what I have hoped to find.

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    Aikido can be useful, but all the guys I've trained with that are really good at it are also good at Judo. Without another art, it's far too limited in it's toolbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin g View Post
    Aikido can be useful, but all the guys I've trained with that are really good at it are also good at Judo. Without another art, it's far too limited in it's toolbox.
    Everything in Aikido is legal in bjj. The useful parts are used. It's very limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raycetpfl View Post
    Everything in Aikido is legal in bjj. The useful parts are used. It's very limited.
    Aikido is too brutal for the ring.

    Seriously though, I was dicking around and did a Aikido/Jujutsu-style outward wrist lock on a friend at the start of a roll. He just did a little sideways roll out of it, we laughed, then he proceeded to choke the **** out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raycetpfl View Post
    Everything in Aikido is legal in bjj. The useful parts are used. It's very limited.
    Kinda how Im feelng. Tbh the Aikido is once a week and does require lengthier travel for a class I neither feel challenged in nor pushed in. While I'm sure some people get benefit out of it, I didnt feel there was significant stress testing for it to keep my interest

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