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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
    אל תאן כסיל כאולתו, פן תשוה לו גם אתה
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    Fine by me, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pship Destroyer View Post
    This particular statement is worth addressing.

    No need to consult the Attorney General on a sweeping, 7 nation travel ban? Why even have an AG if you're not going to use them to review issues of national impact.

    I'd call you a dumbass, but that's the other guy's game. I don't try to upset or insult people. I just think that is an extremely naive thing to say.

    You're sounding like an apologist.

    Why should he consult the acting AG? She's in for days and let's look a bit in depth at her predecessor's history. C'mon. You're like a bible thumper with a peel and stick copy. What appeals to me I'll live with and what not I'll rail against.

    Dudes been in office two weeks and has what, six cabinet members in place? Lowest, if I remembered correctly, since 1933. What the hell?

    More Schumer tears please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
    אל תאן כסיל כאולתו, פן תשוה לו גם אתה
    הוכחת להיות ממש יותר מכסיל, לכן גמרתי
    Don't make me pull out my copy of The First Hebrew Primer please.

    Translation or a curse upon thee in Caddo. Language of the wife's tribe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryjoe View Post
    Traditional conservative is painting with a broad brush. We're all different, on both sides and up the middle.

    Me? I consider myself to be fiscally conservative and socially moderate. In a box? No way. Not a legal scholar but a history buff with great interest in this country's future for mine and theirs when they arrive.

    Pship - I can't be bothered to look up the actual post but it's been on my mind. You remember. Telling you to "get a job" was personal and beneath me. For that I apologize. I'd still be interested in hearing your personal views politically as we're probably not that far apart, despite your obvious hatred for all things Trump.

    and

    You really want to argue about the liberal bent of the 9th Circuit Court?

    and

    If ye be conservative, why ye so mad?
    No offense taken. I felt bad for my response to you, too. We're even. Dickhead.

    I wasn't referring to the liberal bent of the 9th circuit (which is a mix of conservative and liberal judges). I was referring to Judge Robart being conservative by his history. For some strange reason (I know why), a lot of angry voices are calling him a liberal now, or trying to find liberal causes in his rulings, which is absurd given his history. It's almost as if calling someone a liberal is a knee jerk reaction for some people when something doesn't go their way...

    I don't hate Trump, in fact I loved him right until he entered the race. Yes, I am the Trump fan who loved The Apprentice, and who feels that he got in way over his head.

    When he starting doing REALLY poorly in the primaries, he decided to go online and use Twitter and Breitbart as his personal media. It worked in his favor in spades...but it was a deal with the devil because within the span of just a few months, he basically went from a Democrat-loving, liberal spender to a far-right magnate with a base more rabid than Clinton's by a wide margin.

    If I was upset about anything election related, it's that Trump is just not a conservative, and there is still a huge outpouring of support for him from people claiming to be conservative who are actually radicals like Bannon, Balki, etc. He'll end up doing all sorts of things as "conservative" that aren't. The kinds of "right wing" actions that would make Ronald Reagan turn in his grave. Reagan supported amnesty for aliens. Reagan held Gorbachev in his hands. Now, Putin holds Trump in his. Or is it Bannon? Who knows anymore. But what a turnaround, and this is supposed to be our new "right wing"/conservative guy? He's practically handed his dick to a former Communist enforcer. On Bill Reilly the other night, when Bill asked why Trump respected the "murderer" Putin, Trump actually said suggested were no better than the former USSR/Russia? DO we have forced civilian labor gulags in the states? Do we poison our political opponents with radiation?

    That's the only reason I voted for Clinton. I felt like Donald Trump was way more liberal (and a Democrat-loving big spender according to his donations). He appealed to the both the best and worst right side of politics, a toxic combination.

    IF it were JUST Trump, I'd be far more content. It's Trump+Bannon+Richard Spencer that bothers me. Let's not forget, Bannon is a fan of the same Nazi who got punched in the street the other day on camera, and he's now whispering in Donald Trump's ear.
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    I think you're giving Bannon way more worth than he's due in Trump's circle of influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryjoe View Post
    Why should he consult the acting AG? She's in for days and let's look a bit in depth at her predecessor's history. C'mon. You're like a bible thumper with a peel and stick copy. What appeals to me I'll live with and what not I'll rail against.

    Dudes been in office two weeks and has what, six cabinet members in place? Lowest, if I remembered correctly, since 1933. What the hell?

    More Schumer tears please.
    LOL NO crying in baseball..or politics. Camera was rolling, we know how it goes... weak.

    The Attorney General is the government's top attorney, not the "President's Lawyer" as some one else claimed. The AG is in the executive branch, but serves all three equally.

    She was there for maybe another week, before Sessions. But if anybody here thinks Sessions would have supported the President's ban as-is....no way would Jeff Sessions have sided with Trump. That's assuming Trump even consulted with Sessions beforehand.

    The AG advises the President, but takes an oath to the Constitution, not the executive branch of it. Yates sided with the Constitution, instead of the President because she knew how the federal judiciary would have to respond.

    Supreme Court Justice Story, considered by many one of the most conservative, disciplined 19th century Constitutional scholars, wrote that government officers including those directly under the President have a Constitutional duty to side with the law of the land, when they feel an executive's order conflicts.

    The conservative reasoning for that is simple, when the law of the land is X and the President wants it to become Y, conservatism suggests a cautious, measured approach. Yet we just saw one of the most radical, liberal uses of Executive power in history. That's the thing...liberal is thinking your pen stroke can move mountains. Conservative is knowing and following the Constitution to the letter even when it doesn't fit your agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryjoe View Post
    I think you're giving Bannon way more worth than he's due in Trump's circle of influence.
    I think Bannon will get fired in the first year. Trump doesn't need a "strategist" anymore, or Breitbart.com Breitbart is just trying to cash in on the Trump Train. Ever seen so much mug and shirt and book merch being sold by a "news org" on behalf of a President? Yeah, they're sucking that tit, but it'll dry up eventually. It may already have.

    Trump's real business (other than real estate) is branding. He licensed it to Breitbart, now he's licensing it to the White House. But that brand he loves is "Trump", not "Trump+1"

    The more people talk about "Trump and Bannon" the more it's going to piss Trump off. WE both know he can't stand to share a spotlight. Bannon will get that call to the board room at some point...he's already been instrumental in Trump's first major **** up (the one Trump seems to think he can win by trolling judges on Twitter..).

    So much for having a "strategist". He needs a new strategy: get the **** off Twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pship Destroyer View Post
    Yes I know, I ordered one. 320 page memoirs have to be read and then mocked, critically.

    He has no idea what he's in for.

    Justin Bieber has published something like ten books. Evil Balki is not even close in popularity, or writing quality.

    He literally NEEDS riots to sell his books.
    You are a pathetic loser. You can't stand other people's success. I guess living well is, in fact, the best revenge. Especially when it applies to Pshitposter's enemies. Insecure, jealous little prick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin View Post
    So I got a kick out of Howard Stern's take on Trump. Honestly, I thought Trump expected to lose. I thought he was either running interference for Hillary Clinton, or he thought he simply wouldn't win the election, but would succeed in promoting himself.

    On some issues still, I think Trump is playing to his base and promoting stuff he's indifferent towards. For example, as a New Yorker, I feel like I can guarantee that Trump isn't really comfortable with the idea of rural guys running around with military pattern rifles. It's not in his culture. And yet the NRA endorsed him and he pandered to gun owners. But in his heart of hearts I don't think he really cares about the 2nd amendment. It's just not something you get into living in New York City and you have few practical ways to get good at marksmanship even if you like the abstract idea of civilian firearms ownership.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/02/medi...ump/index.html
    You idiot. You just said that a billionaire has few opportunities to use guns because he lives in New York City. A billionaire. He can shoot gold AKs every single day using supermodels on all fours as a shooting rest if he feels like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
    אל תאן כסיל כאולתו, פן תשוה לו גם אתה
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    I assume this is the dradel song lyrics,yes?

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