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    Training the Wheel Kick

    So I have a question for you Kyokushin folks:
    The Do Mawashi Kaiten Geri, as evidenced by this video, is totally badass. My question is - how the hell do you train them?
    Obviously, doing them in the air and on pads is self explanatory. But how do you throw them in sparring? It seems like a pretty all-or-nothing technique that you're going to have a hard time choking back the power on. At the same time, it definitely requires a lot in terms of timing and distancing to land, so I imagine throwing it in sparring matches is a key part of building it up as an effective weapon.
    SO yeah. How do makey good wheel kick?
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    The only way I could see of practicing a wheel kick in a sparring way would be with a strike shield. I couldn't really see throwing it in just general sparring unless your spar partner is in a full red man suit. I see a lot of people use it in KK matches. We even used to do them in TKD, it for me was almost a kick of luck, but just being able to land spin heels helps with the timing. I would say just practice it against a static target.

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    Oh I almost forgot if you plan on using it in a match I would suggest training on how to recover fast if it misses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    I don't know something something peter Graham.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KGnVqPNzNo
    The timing, the technique, the combinations, the strategy ... the sheer badassery.

    Thank you for sharing, I would have missed this fellow completely.
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    My first thought was that this was probably best trained on focus mitts, but the tendency to "catch" the strikes as they come in, particularly a powerful one like this, might give you a false sense of accuracy.

    I've never done this kick in my life, though.

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    It's a spinning heel kick where you throw your whole body into it. The way I've seen it practiced is by developing a solid spinning heel kick, and then doing the rolling version aimed at a pad over a crash mat. My understanding is that the aiming is the same, and only the timing and amount of commitment is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    It's a spinning heel kick where you throw your whole body into it. The way I've seen it practiced is by developing a solid spinning heel kick, and then doing the rolling version aimed at a pad over a crash mat. My understanding is that the aiming is the same, and only the timing and amount of commitment is different.
    Basically exactly what you're saying, but with way more recovery after the kick. Depending on the rules of the fight this type of kick can open you up to a real shitstorm if it doesn't knock your opponent out.

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    When Harold Howard first tried it in the UFC, it was nowhere near hitting his opponent, but I think the way he recovered was good.

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