Help! Grappling Plateau.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 12:25pm

So I've noticed in my training in general Striking and Grappling I tend to improve in a cycle of plateaus. For a while I feel like I'm not getting any better then something usually clicks and bam I jump up in skill and I feel stuck there again for a while.

I feel like I've reached another one of those plateaus in my Grappling. Over the last few month my grappling has definately improved I am relaxing more and focusing on position and really feeling the flow. But now I feel like I am stuck at the point of only having good position. I don't ever "see" the entrances to submissions. Instead I get positon and hold it or try to make an ill advised sub work. Especially Kimuras and Americanas I have never got one of these outside of a drill.

So do you guys have any recomendations on how to move past this point? I feel like I need to "see" the oppurtunities for subs a LOT more clearly. Any ideas?

**Dochter** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 12:29pm

Ditto, plateaued as well.

**Ronin** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 12:48pm

Try blindfolded/eyes closed drilling.
The sensitivity training takes grappling, for some, to a whole other level.

**nasty_totoro** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 12:51pm

i'm (hopefully) just gettting off one of those plateaus ...

my advice is to grapple with people who are about the same weight and a bit less skill then you ... you can then pratice getting the submissions on ... concentrate on technique

then right after ... grapple someone who is at least equal or better than you ... keep concentrating on technique ...

its a bit hard to learn to get the submissions when wrestling someone who is better or outweighs you substantially ...

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 1:12pm

Originally posted by ronin69
Try blindfolded/eyes closed drilling.
The sensitivity training takes grappling, for some, to a whole other level.

I already do I almost always practice with my eyes closed, I'm not sure why. I think I just did it one time because I had heard it can improve your game, now I do it all the time.

nasty_totoro- Unfortunately the group of people that I roll with regularly doesn't include many of those types of people. theres really only 4-5 guys I roll with real regularly. 3 of which are better than me and 2/3 are significantly bigger and better. I wish Skummer and the other ATL people had ever gotten that sparring group going.

**Dochter** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 1:18pm

The people with less skill are bigger than me. The people smaller are more skilled.

Things go pretty cyclically it seems.

One month you're tapping people left and right. The next you're getting tapped left and right.

**DJeter1234** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 1:25pm

i'm reletively new to bjj but when i plataeued (sp) i just started working a lot of open guard.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 2:08pm

July? I thought you said June. Besides by July I'm sure I'll be off this plateau and tapping your ass! ;)

**Ronin** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 2:26pm

If there is a particular move/lock/choke you want to work on, just drill that one over and over and over...

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 5/14/2004 2:43pm

Originally posted by ronin69
If there is a particular move/lock/choke you want to work on, just drill that one over and over and over...

That's just it it's not ONE particular lock. It's most of them my positioning has improved but my subs didn't really come along with it. I feel like Kerr or Coleman. Dominating positioning with no submission setups.

I guess more practice on entering the subs is what I really need. But I'm not sure how to practice that specific part of the game.