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    Quote Originally Posted by tgace View Post
    I see your point, and agree with much of its foundational content.

    But I can recall numerous times I've "helped" people; changing flats, pushing disabled cars, giving people walking the street in the middle of the night during sub-zero winters a ride. Located Alzheimer's patients wandering from home, revived ODing kids with Narcan, talked down suicides.... Hell I've even done the "duckling rescue" from the storm drain. Lol!

    Point is, I get the "cops are there to enforce societies rules" thing, but there are plenty of opportunities to "help people" too. Sometimes those opportunities are limited by beat, duty and departmental "culture". But if you want to help people there are always opportunities

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    Thank you for your post I think its a nice counter balance to what I am trying to say.
    I am trying to not be too cynical of the whole police helping people thing.
    I know that they do, I know its a common trait that draws people to wanting to be police officers but its typically with some very rose tented glasses on if you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    My wife makes decent money, but not sugar momma status.
    I was hoping for that with my wife, since I put her through nursing and FNP school. Unfortunately, my starting salary for my post military job turned out to be higher than her max expected career salary, and that was on the middle end of offers I received. Of course, I am only employable in about 10 places in the U.S. for now, whereas her salary would only fluctuate slightly based on where we live. So hopefully we'll head out west in a few years so I can live the dream of having a thousand yard gun range in my back yard.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Some people are nurturing, caring people. I'm not.

    I like order, and rules, and enforcing them. I like being able to influence people through my example.
    FYI, I was pre med before I enlisted, having decided the opposite of healing was more for me. Consider that a nurturing spirit is sort of helpful to medicine. Though I guess surgeons are more into fixing problems than treating people. Hey, it only took my friend 9 years post BA to become a board certified general surgeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    I like to help people. I thought about social work or becoming a psychologist, but I don't have the touchy-feely stuff in me.

    Being a police officer seems like the best way for me to help people. It seems to be in line with my skill set. Again, I'm not sure what I want to do, I'm trying to figure that out.


    As far as balancing work or school, I'm currently a combat instructor. I work 100+ hours a week, and still managed to get school done. I would obviously wait until my schedule calmed down before resuming classes.

    I'm really good at math and science, too.

    (To the cops)
    As for being a cop, how rewarding is it? Do you get a sense of fulfillment from it? Why did you become a cop? What are some things that aren't apparent from the outside?
    Some people love it, some people hate it. Some start out loving it and then end up hating it. All are never the same before they joined as they are after. Most people I know who were married before they were a cop are divorced. Sense of fulfillment? Not really. You can get a sense of fulfillment from about anything. Like building a bird house. Most of the time people hate you for no reason, don't thank you for what you do, and will expect you to do more than you should because it's what they perceive as "your job".

    If you want to be a cop, be a cop. You won't know what it's like until you are in it, doing it. You will go through your new cock phase (I hate new cocks) and then hopefully level out after that. If you get tired of working a 12 hour shift only to have to go strait to court to sit in the court room waiting to defend a traffic ticket, only to find out the dude you wrote the ticket on didn't show then you will be living the dream. Then you get to go home and try to get a few hours sleep in the day time while your wife is awake and wondering why you don't spend time with her any more. Hope she doesn't find some other guy to bitch to. But it is what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    I like being able to influence people through my example.
    You can do that without being a cop.

    Best thing you can do is find a ride along program somewhere. Most everyone does them. You will learn pretty quick if it's your deal. If it is, go for it. It's not all fun all the time. The best thing about being a cop is your brothers. The brotherhood you develop that only comes with being in the trenches with others who where there with you. Those are the guys you will hand out with, get drunk with, and bitch too. The job, is the job. Good points and bad points. Just depends on your personality.

    Good luck to you.
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    Whoa! Holy thread rez everyone!

    Just wanted to pop in and say that career change #458752254 has lead me to law school, where I currently have a 3.6 GPA. Plan is to work in the county prosecutor's office for a few years, and hopefully transition into federal prosecution.

    I realized I'm tired of getting paid to carry a gun and wear body armor.

    I also know that no one cares and I'm only updating this for my own narcissistic benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce
    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

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    That is not conducive to passionate cunnilingus, my friend, let me assure you.
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    I agree with moosey

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Whoa! Holy thread rez everyone!

    Just wanted to pop in and say that career change #458752254 has lead me to law school, where I currently have a 3.6 GPA. Plan is to work in the county prosecutor's office for a few years, and hopefully transition into federal prosecution.

    I realized I'm tired of getting paid to carry a gun and wear body armor.

    I also know that no one cares and I'm only updating this for my own narcissistic benefit.
    Referring to military service, or did you end up becoming a cop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Referring to military service, or did you end up becoming a cop?
    Well, in general. After I got out last year, I did personal security for a while. Just got tired of the whole deal, it gets exhausting.

    It's much nicer to be in air conditioned court rooms!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce
    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

    Quote Originally Posted by sochin101 View Post
    I went out with a delightful young woman who was on a regimen of pills that made her taste of burned onions.
    That is not conducive to passionate cunnilingus, my friend, let me assure you.
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    I agree with moosey

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Well, in general. After I got out last year, I did personal security for a while. Just got tired of the whole deal, it gets exhausting.

    It's much nicer to be in air conditioned court rooms!
    As long as you are not a defendant !
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Whoa! Holy thread rez everyone!

    Just wanted to pop in and say that career change #458752254 has lead me to law school, where I currently have a 3.6 GPA. Plan is to work in the county prosecutor's office for a few years, and hopefully transition into federal prosecution.

    I realized I'm tired of getting paid to carry a gun and wear body armor.

    I also know that no one cares and I'm only updating this for my own narcissistic benefit.
    So you went from doctor to psychologist to security guard to police officer to lawyer. That's impressive, except for the part where you are a lawyer in the end. Incidentally my wife graduated as an FNP recently and is about to start a new job, so that is going to put me into an unfortunate tax bracket next year. On the bright side eventually we probably will be making "can afford machine guns" money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Well, in general. After I got out last year, I did personal security for a while. Just got tired of the whole deal, it gets exhausting.

    It's much nicer to be in air conditioned court rooms!
    Cool. Still on your journey. My brother did the exact same. Military, Cop, then Law school. Now he is a Lawyer. He did the ambulance chaser thing for a while and hated it and now he is in Real estate law. He loves it. Makes good money and takes lots of vacations. Good luck to you.
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