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  1. BioHaZarD is offline

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     Style: Krav Maga, Muay Thai, BJJ

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    The History of Krav Maga

    The history of Krav Maga is as exciting as the system it self. The founder of Krav Maga was Imi Sde-Or. The history is closely linked to the development of the state of Israel and the need for the Israeli military to protect is country in one of the worlds most hostile areas.

    Given Imi's extensive self defense skills, Imi was recruited by Isaac Sadeh, the commanding officer of the Haganah in 1942. Two years later he began to teach Kapap (hand to hand combat) and physical exercise to the most elite special forces units of the Haganah, Palmach, and Palyam. During this period, firearms were outlawed and in very scarce supply. They were hidden away from the British and only used for special missions. The fact that firearms could not be used had a great influence on the development of the style. Unarmed combat was absolutely essential for the success of the military.

    In 1948, when the State of Israel was founded and the IDF was formed, Imi became Chief Instructor for Physical Fitness and Krav Maga at the IDF School of Combat Fitness. He served in the IDF for about 20 years, during which time he developed and refined his unique method for self-defense and hand-to-hand combat. It was his job to see to it that the troops of the IDF including the special forces units were expertly skilled in hand to hand combat. During this time, Imi further refined his face to face fighting techniques (now referred to as Krav Maga).

    Upon retiring from the IDF in the early 60`s, Imi began adapting the style for civilian use. He established two schools, one in Netanya and one in Tel Aviv.

    The work in the following years and up to today, was to design the system to confront every day attacks and street confrontation problems. Imi and his senior students set about designing Krav Maga as a complete system, and Imi`s close assistant from the 80`and untill his death, Eyal Yanilov, was put in charge of tieing the loose ends together and making Krav Maga into a respected martial art system.

    New problems was discovered and Imi set about finding a solution to them, with the help of his senior instructors. The core of the system has always been simplicity and effectiveness, and Imi was always looking for the easy solution to most problems.

    Many changes was made to the system both technically and visual, but in all the work that was done Imi never forgot the base of the system, simplicity, effectiveness and realism.

    One interesting result of this was Krav Maga`s use of belts. In the early system Imi did not use belts in training, because it was a millitary system. But seeking recognition from his fellow martial artists he designed a belt system based on the Judo system of white-yellow-orange-green-blue-brown-black. The system was didived into grades making it easier to orginize. He also started training in gi`s (white judo training suits). In the 90`s however Imi desided that belts no longer should be a part of the system as it originally did not have a place there and that the use of belts did not have any realistic or practical meening in the system. The system of grades was kept, but the belts was taken out and replaced with a system of Practitioner/Graduate/Expert levels. The training suits today also consist of black pants and white t-shirts. Some countries still uses the belts in the curriculum, but not in training.

    Imi and his senior instructors formed the first Krav Maga Association in 1978, and in 1992 Imi expressed a desire to make an international federation to help spread his system to the world. In 1995 his dream came true and the International Krav Maga Federation was formed in Netanya, Imis homeplace.

    To the present day the style has grown greatly.
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    Intersting. A lot of stuff has been posted on KM, but I don't know if anyone's written such a detailed history before.
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    Liven International Krav Maga - Shihan Raffi Liven
    Intrenational Krav Maga Federation - Eyal Yanilov

    I like Liven International Krav Maga best, the system work bether on the street.. ;)
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    Nicely done, thanks for the info.
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    Shihan Raffi Liven




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    I found an old book at Half Price Books called Fighting Fit and was made in 1981. It is about Krav Maga. Anyone ever read this book? I might go buy it Monday.
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    BioHazard:" The history of Krav Maga is ass exciting as the System itself"

    Wow, I hear SCARS has a truly captivating history that almost competes with the excitment training in SCARS generates. We are truly lucky to have 2 truly amazing martial arts to choose from, if only they weren't both so Mechanized Attack Squad.
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    Have read about this style, but never watched a class. Don't seem to be many in the UK. I'm intrigued.

    A few questions :-

    1) What's the emphasis on fitness and conditioning ? i.e. is the attitude 'practice these techniques enough, and it won't matter what size you are or shape you are in' or is it 'you need to make the most of what you have, do your situps/pushups/running/weights and you'll last longer & hit harder' ?

    2) What's the balance between grappling and striking ?

    3) Any weapons training ? (I mean training in the use of weapons, rather than purely drills to defend against them).

    4) What's the level of contact in most schools ? do people get bruises/bloody noses/black eyes, or do they pull all strikes on the grounds of them being too dangerous ?

    5) Do KM people ever compete in MMA tournaments ? if so, how do they do ?

    6) I read a bit of historical stuff about KM and apparently the founder had trained in western boxing and wrestling, and had plenty of experience fighting on the street. Maybe I got this from an unrealiable source. Does KM contain techniques generally associated with asian martial arts, such as kicks and blocks/deflections, and if so, where did they come from ?
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    "1) What's the emphasis on fitness and conditioning ? i.e. is the attitude 'practice these techniques enough, and it won't matter what size you are or shape you are in' or is it 'you need to make the most of what you have, do your situps/pushups/running/weights and you'll last longer & hit harder' ?"

    Fitness is a very integral part of Krav Maga, so much so that some classes have turned into nothing more than Cardio-kick boxing. The serious instructors incorporate the fitness into the class because the main principal behind the training is to train under maximum physical and emotional stress.

    "2) What's the balance between grappling and striking ?"

    The Krav Maga is geared more toward striking but includes grappling.


    "3) Any weapons training ? (I mean training in the use of weapons, rather than purely drills to defend against them)."

    At the national training center they teach weapons such as handguns.

    "4) What's the level of contact in most schools ? do people get bruises/bloody noses/black eyes, or do they pull all strikes on the grounds of them being too dangerous ?"

    The contact is pretty hard. In the combatives IE punching, kicking, elbows and knee strikes they are done full force against striking targets and pads. Never against the air. We have a special class for full contact sparring. The only times we pull punches is in the self defense drills because they require strikes like groin shots and elbows to the head.

    "5) Do KM people ever compete in MMA tournaments ? if so, how do they do ?"

    People have competed in MMA tournaments on the lower level but competition is not part of the Krav Maga system. In order for someone to participate in a MMA tournament they would have to change the training methods used. The ones who have competed have done pretty well.

    "6) I read a bit of historical stuff about KM and apparently the founder had trained in western boxing and wrestling, and had plenty of experience fighting on the street. Maybe I got this from an unreliable source. Does KM contain techniques generally associated with Asian martial arts, such as kicks and blocks/deflections, and if so, where did they come from ?"

    Krav Maga's founder was also very good with JJJ! Many of the moves and most of the ground fighting is from that background. Most of the kicking is like Muy Thai (sp) lower and mid level kicks.
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    "1) What's the emphasis on fitness and conditioning ? i.e. is the attitude 'practice these techniques enough, and it won't matter what size you are or shape you are in' or is it 'you need to make the most of what you have, do your situps/pushups/running/weights and you'll last longer & hit harder' ?"

    Fitness is a very integral part of Krav Maga, so much so that some classes have turned into nothing more than Cardio-kick boxing. The serious instructors incorporate the fitness into the class because the main principal behind the training is to train under maximum physical and emotional stress.

    - I use my body to be stronger. situps/pushups/running/weights
    it's 4 good things to do.
    Yes we lurn all the stuff for physical stress on the street.

    "2) What's the balance between grappling and striking ?"

    The Krav Maga is geared more toward striking but includes grappling.

    - Yes you have right..

    "3) Any weapons training ? (I mean training in the use of weapons, rather than purely drills to defend against them)."

    At the national training center they teach weapons such as handguns.

    - Yes we train with wepons.. (;)knifs, bat's, batons and sticks) Raffi liven will train us in Norway in guns.. ;)

    "4) What's the level of contact in most schools ? do people get bruises/bloody noses/black eyes, or do they pull all strikes on the grounds of them being too dangerous ?"

    The contact is pretty hard. In the combatives IE punching, kicking, elbows and knee strikes they are done full force against striking targets and pads. Never against the air. We have a special class for full contact sparring. The only times we pull punches is in the self defense drills because they require strikes like groin shots and elbows to the head.

    "5) Do KM people ever compete in MMA tournaments ? if so, how do they do ?"

    People have competed in MMA tournaments on the lower level but competition is not part of the Krav Maga system. In order for someone to participate in a MMA tournament they would have to change the training methods used. The ones who have competed have done pretty well.

    - In KM it's not fighting tornaments, but we can train to be fighters for our KM club with Pankration.. ;) (We can only use pankration, not KM)

    "6) I read a bit of historical stuff about KM and apparently the founder had trained in western boxing and wrestling, and had plenty of experience fighting on the street. Maybe I got this from an unreliable source. Does KM contain techniques generally associated with Asian martial arts, such as kicks and blocks/deflections, and if so, where did they come from ?"

    Krav Maga's founder was also very good with JJJ! Many of the moves and most of the ground fighting is from that background. Most of the kicking is like Muy Thai (sp) lower and mid level kicks.

    Yees we use cick's from Muay Thai, but we do them very much faster... And all the other stuff are from difrent types of cobatsports.. I will say: "Krav Maga it's the ultimate self-defence"

    I can make a movie one day, with KM stuff for this forum...
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