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  1. patfromlogan is offline
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    Gen. Taguba's report

    I know that the policy here is to not just paste in stuff, but in this case I feel that some Bullshidoist might want to have a look at the document itself.

    The entire report is at:
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell...800-mp-bde.htm

    Here's a couple quotes (I noted they're carefully trying to keep separate the good and bad eggs) :



    ARTICLE 15-6 INVESTIGATION
    OF THE
    800th MILITARY POLICE
    BRIGADE





    a. (U) The 744th MP Battalion, commanded by LTC Dennis McGlone, efficiently operated the HVD Detention
    Facility at Camp Cropper and met mission
    requirements with little to no guidance from the
    800th MP Brigade. The unit was disciplined,
    proficient, and appeared to understand their basic
    tasks.

    b. (U) The 530th MP Battalion, commanded by LTC
    Stephen J. Novotny, effectively maintained the MEK
    Detention Facility at Camp Ashraf. His Soldiers
    were proficient in their individual tasks and
    adapted well to this highly unique and non-doctrinal
    operation.

    1. (U) Several US Army Soldiers have committed egregious
    acts and grave breaches of international law at Abu
    Ghraib/BCCF and Camp Bucca, Iraq. Furthermore, key
    senior leaders in both the 800th MP Brigade and the 205th
    MI Brigade failed to comply with established regulations,
    policies, and command directives in preventing detainee
    abuses at Abu Ghraib (BCCF) and at Camp Bucca during the
    period August 2003 to February 2004.
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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    Army Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, by the way, has been doing talk shows, denying any knowledge of the **** that went down and blames it on military intelligence, another branch. They were the ones who conducted the interrogations in Abu Ghraib prison, while her military police soldiers provided security.

    Rummy and co. aren't too thrilled. The seem to think she's passing the buck, and I bet they don't want it passed any higher.
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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    Posted On:
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    Pat,

    I read that in the change over from Camp Cropper to Abu Ghraib the Units in charge also changed. The second unit that took over at AG had no idea what they were doing, and it was under their watch that the abuse took place.

    Matt
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    Posted On:
    5/11/2004 1:59pm

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    This gets worse all the time.

    It has now been proved that the photos of British troops "torturing" an Iraqi are definetely fake. They were in fact taken at a reserve unit in the UK. Not Iraq. The UK.

    And what does the scum sucking newspaper that printed them say? "Oh well, it doesn't matter that the photos were fake. It must have happened anyway. There's no smoke without fire."

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