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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    Do that stupid scissor punch. Where you punch the hand one way and punch the elbow the other. Even just propping their hand with yours will have an effect.
    In FMA its usually called a "gunting" (translates to "scissors").

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    Great answers, guys.

    A few things I never even thought of:
    -Raising his arm instead of passing it.
    -Punching his elbow to hyperextend it.
    -Another one I thought is putting your arm inside his guard and moving the arm outside. Kind of the way you would block a hook. (It's kind of hard to explain)

    I will try all of these in sparring and get back to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    Punch **** out of his elbow.

    I love it ! I used punch guys in the knee/leg in a TKD class I took a loooong time ago back when I was in grad school.

    Man, it pissed them off, but the instructor thought it was hilarious.
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    Tyson used to weave right underneath **** like this and knock people out with that power hook.

    It's isn't a game stopper. Just work on head movement.

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    We actually use this technique to practice slipping. You have an advantage when he does that frequently, cause you know where his left hand is (pressed firmly to your forehead) . So only the right hand to worry about (neglecting kicks for now). I understand that slipping is dangerous in MT, but if done quickly with your guard in place it should work.
    You put some pressure on his hand with your forehead, and than fake a left slip than a quick downward right one, coupled with a left to the body for example (you probably will need to add a step forward cause of his height) . It can also be some sort of a cross between a slip and a weave.
    It helps to stand a bit tall and to have a tight guard over your face so he chooses to keep his glove on your forehead. Than when you slip down its easier.
    If he is like glue, you again put pressure on his glove, and quickly lower your head to the left (careful of his right) and push forward hard at the same time coming in with a huge right overhand. His left hand should follow your head down and to his right..opening him for a right cross/overhand.
    The important thing is to understand that it can be an advantage knowing not to fear his left, you just let it sit there, and when the time comes push hard with your head through it (and a bit to the side so it slips over the side of your head) while counter punching.
    What Greg said about punching his elbow could work for sure, but it is just sparing and IMO is unnecessary dangerous technique, you could instead left hook his bicep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixenbach View Post
    I was sparring a guy who was a few inches taller than me and had significant reach advantage. I did well against him, (getting inside, managing distance etc...) but then at one point he decided to just reach his hand out in front of me and I seriously couldn't move past it to get inside. He just stopped me in place when I tried.

    I tried passing the arm like I would a strike but he just moved his hand outside of mine. He just had his arm extended to my face and I was stuck. I tried kicking his exposed rib and he just checked it.

    Jon Jones did this to Rashad Evans and Rashad didn't have a response to it. He did to Glover Teixera and Glover was stumped.

    What is the way past this? My instructors just say pass it and strike but he kept moving it past mine (much like what Jon Jones did). There must be a way past this otherwise tall guys would just do this all the time.

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    In this situation pak sao (similar to a boxing parry but drive forwards and across instead of just slightly pawing) the arm down and back into him and move in for your strikes.

    I personally use pak sao chain punch to get him moving backwards then as he tries to square up you can go back to muay thai and leg kick hm.

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    Seems like you should be able to deal with it by treating it like a slow jab.

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    Keep on nailing him with teeps (or pushing your foot down on top of his thigh thus putting pressure on his leading knee) until he gets angry and does something else.

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    I would say to slip underneath it. Throwing teeps could also work, as they're harder to check. Another simpler option could be to just wait for him to attack. If he's just resting his hand on your forehead he's, A) not attacking, and B) taking that arm out of action as a weapon. All you would have to do is wait for him to open up to throw a kick or a punch, then crash in with punches or whatever else you use to do your thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    Seems like you should be able to deal with it by treating it like a slow jab.
    No it really doesn't work like that. Not sure why. Maybe because they are not going forwards?
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