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  1. Nixenbach is offline

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    8/02/2014 11:59am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    I hope theres a really simple answer to this

    I was sparring a guy who was a few inches taller than me and had significant reach advantage. I did well against him, (getting inside, managing distance etc...) but then at one point he decided to just reach his hand out in front of me and I seriously couldn't move past it to get inside. He just stopped me in place when I tried.

    I tried passing the arm like I would a strike but he just moved his hand outside of mine. He just had his arm extended to my face and I was stuck. I tried kicking his exposed rib and he just checked it.

    Jon Jones did this to Rashad Evans and Rashad didn't have a response to it. He did to Glover Teixera and Glover was stumped.

    What is the way past this? My instructors just say pass it and strike but he kept moving it past mine (much like what Jon Jones did). There must be a way past this otherwise tall guys would just do this all the time.

    Thanks.
  2. soft touch is online now

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    How's your chin? if you're willing to take hit one for one then just lift the arm and move in
    if not, surprisingly I'm not really sure, I'll need to test this with a tall guy tomorrow, but I think I'd be going for low kicks and maybe sweeps, not sure till I can test it tho

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    What's the rule set? Can you grab the wrist with your rear hand (I'm assuming you're both in orthodox stances rather than southpaw), pull him in, off angle and THEN kick the rib or grapple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wetware View Post
    What's the rule set? Can you grab the wrist with your rear hand (I'm assuming you're both in orthodox stances rather than southpaw), pull him in, off angle and THEN kick the rib or grapple?
    I can't grab for two reasons: I have sparring gloves on and every time I try to grab his wrist he can just move his to block mine and I can't grab around it.

    Also I'm not sure if I could pull him in because he's heavier than me.
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    8/02/2014 9:17pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Punch **** out of his elbow.
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    Posted On:
    8/02/2014 11:29pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    Punch **** out of his elbow.
    This is the first thing I thought too. I have no idea what it would do, but why not try it out and let us know?
  7. Fuzzy is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    Punch **** out of his elbow.
    This.

    If he's leaving his arm out there its a target. Destroy it.

    Edit: Boxing gloves probably make this a bit harder than MMA gloves or deadly street bareknuckle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixenbach View Post
    I can't grab for two reasons: I have sparring gloves on and every time I try to grab his wrist he can just move his to block mine and I can't grab around it.

    Also I'm not sure if I could pull him in because he's heavier than me.
    Yeah, sparring gloves would probably make an arm drag damn near impossible since getting wrist control is unlikely, but unless he's a whole lot heavier than you it would probably still work, at least immobilizing the arm and making it difficult for him to evade.

    Slip it, get under his arm and beat on his kidneys.

    Or:
    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    Punch **** out of his elbow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wetware View Post
    Yeah, sparring gloves would probably make an arm drag damn near impossible since getting wrist control is unlikely, but unless he's a whole lot heavier than you it would probably still work, at least immobilizing the arm and making it difficult for him to evade.

    Slip it, get under his arm and beat on his kidneys.

    Or:
    You can hook the arm with a glove. Put the arm over the shoulder and hold it with your arm and head. That way your guard is up but his is being dragged away.

    Throw right hooks at his head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    This.

    If he's leaving his arm out there its a target. Destroy it.

    Edit: Boxing gloves probably make this a bit harder than MMA gloves or deadly street bareknuckle.
    Do that stupid scissor punch. Where you punch the hand one way and punch the elbow the other. Even just propping their hand with yours will have an effect.
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