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    OK Bullshido, it time for you to help me

    So here is my story. I graduate college @ 22 years old weighing 130 lbs/59 kg. I was skinny, no muscle. Between 22 and 24 I put on a good amount of muscle, getting up to 155 lb/ 70 kg. Over the last 8 years (now 32 years old) it didn't do much conditioning outside Judo and Jiu Jitsu and inched myself up to 180 lbs / 81 kg.

    So at this point I decided I wanted to get back to my 155 lb / 70kg state. I lowered my calorie intake to 1700 cals Net, (mostly chicken, vegetables, pasta) and started running 5-6km a day when I am not on the mat along with body weight exercises, not much lifting. Over the course of the last 2+ months I am down to 164 lbs/ 74 kg. However, I been stuck there for a few weeks now. I tried lowering my cals to 1600 Net, no Change, I uped my Cals to 2100 Net to restart my metabolism, no change.

    I got 9 more pounds to lose to hit 155.

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    How tall are you? Are you talking about getting your fighting weight down to 70 or your walking around weight?

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    Try lifting more. That actually helps weight loss more than cardio does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackFox View Post
    How tall are you? Are you talking about getting your fighting weight down to 70 or your walking around weight?

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    Just shy of 5'10"/177cm. Walking weight. I only compete Jiu Jitsu nowadays and don't water cut for it. So my walking weight is my competition weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Try lifting more. That actually helps weight loss more than cardio does.
    Really, wouldn't lifting build muscle and burn less calories?

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    Is it a straight calorie cut or have have you incorprporated intermittent fasting? I dropped from 92kg (204lbs) to 85kg (190ls) simply by cramming all my calories into a daily 8hr window. You could go the full warrior version though with a 4hr window if you're that determined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma View Post
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    Really, wouldn't lifting build muscle and burn less calories?
    Surprisingly this is not the case. It actually burns more calories, and the extra muscle you build as a result accelerates the process because it basically increases your bmr. I remember a study from a few years ago that showed that people that ate properly and lifted lost more weight than those that just ate right and did cardio. I'll try to dig it up.

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    Well congratulations bro, you are the same age weight and height (give or take) as me. If I was going to try to change my weight I would try and go upwards, but it's your call.

    Do you know your body fat percentage?

    As for lifting weights, you won't bulk up unless you are eating a lot of food. If you are on a calorie deficit, you should lose weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cualltaigh View Post
    Is it a straight calorie cut or have have you incorprporated intermittent fasting? I dropped from 92kg (204lbs) to 85kg (190ls) simply by cramming all my calories into a daily 8hr window. You could go the full warrior version though with a 4hr window if you're that determined.
    Its a straight calorie cut. I eat around 400 cals around 9am, 800-900 around noon, and another 800-900 around 5-6pm or 10pm (depending on when my workout is). That's interesting, I am not sure if I can do that with my schedule.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Surprisingly this is not the case. It actually burns more calories, and the extra muscle you build as a result accelerates the process because it basically increases your bmr. I remember a study from a few years ago that showed that people that ate properly and lifted lost more weight than those that just ate right and did cardio. I'll try to dig it up.
    I'd love to read that. I'll get some more lifting time in. I am coming off a shoulder/upper bicep injury so I have to be careful, but I can figure it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrackFox View Post
    Well congratulations bro, you are the same age weight and height (give or take) as me. If I was going to try to change my weight I would try and go upwards, but it's your call.

    Do you know your body fat percentage?

    As for lifting weights, you won't bulk up unless you are eating a lot of food. If you are on a calorie deficit, you should lose weight.

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    I prefer to compete in the lighter divisions hence why I am going down not up. Body Fat is around 18-19%.

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    Cut out the pasta. Our cut weight guys will eat maybe 1 peice of bread for breakfast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    Cut out the pasta. Our cut weight guys will eat maybe 1 peice of bread for breakfast.
    For short term weight loss or long term? Without Carbs your body burns protein for energy which is not good in the long run. Short term, its fine for weight cutting.

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