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    I guess its splitting hairs but Ive always thought that a "racial issue" implied something almost genetic or at least indicitive of the race in general. I don't know that behavior is really a "racial" thing as much as its a cultural thing. But as you said the cultural issue is interwoven with race within the areas most effected by crime and violence so I guess its difficult to talk about "culture" without racial overtones.
    I'd argue this is you parsing because you are a cop, who spends times separating things to remain neutral. There is white, black, Latino, Asian, Native American etc culture. Then there is American Culture. We all move through American culture and can exclude each other from racial culture. What I teach within my racial cultural background becomes a "racial" behavior. It's why you hear terms like "acting black" or "talking white." There are things I teach my kids, racially and culturally, a white person cannot based on my experiences. So, no, it isn't about overtones, race is an integral part of minority culture.


    Since we are discussing it...what is your opinon on the subject? Is "culture" separate from economics/poverty?
    Yes because you'll see many of the same cultural aspects in an affluent minority as a poor one. Now, some behaviors will be exacerbated in an economically disadvantaged minority, but we could still sit down and laugh and have many of the same experiences because our cultural upbringing would be extremely similar. I could write an entire dissertation on this subject.
    Is it the economic disparity that drives things
    It is a problem, but no. I'd argue there were poorer Blacks back when my parents grew up and less violence. Yes, even if we adjust for population percentages and growth.

    or does the "culture" hold people within the economic bracket? What is the position of education in the mix? It sometimes becomes a "snake eating tail" issue.
    Ignorance holds people back, culture is used as an excuse.

    And what can be done to improve the situation? And by whom? Isn't it presumptuous or even arrogant for someone "outside" to say "you should change"?
    For some things yes. Telling people to stop murdering and killing? No. Personally, I think it is much more arrogant to be offended, when someone points out the truth regardless of race.

    Along this route. Ive always been puzzled at the logic behind the people who complain about the racial disparity in arrest statistics, the implication being that those statistics mean people are either being wrongfully arrested or that "white" criminals are not being arrested when they should be.
    This is too simple. It is not so much the disparity in arrests, it is the punishment doled out in the prosecution. This goes back to my comment of minorities need to quit blaming the system. This problem has been commented on before you or I was born.

    The fact of the matter is that minorities are also more often the VICTIM of crime. It always seemed to me that people complaining about who is getting arrested don't appear to give a damn about the victims.
    Yes minorities are more often the victims, but they are being victimized mainly by people of their own race. This adds an entirely new conundrum to the entire debate.
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    There are things I teach my kids, racially and culturally, a white person cannot based on my experiences.
    Comrade, methinks you are forgetting Romanians, Armanians, Russians, Georgians, etc.
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    Comrade, methinks you are forgetting Romanians, Armanians, Russians, Georgians, etc.
    I hope this is a joke, my culture is nothing like theirs and they have racial divisions as well.
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    I hope this is a joke, my culture is nothing like theirs and they have racial divisions as well.
    That's a me misreading what you wrote post, comrade.
    Had to re-read twice to get the gist. I thought you were clumping the pasty folk under the general genus Saltinae Americana.

    My reading comprehension and attention span not what they used to be.
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    47 shot. 5 dead. Chicago officials meet
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    It is now my official opinion that Chicago sucks.
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    47 shot. 5 dead. Chicago officials meet
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/21/justic...end/index.html

    It is now my official opinion that Chicago sucks.
    ORLY? What did you think of Chicago before?

    Damn, it's times like this that I miss TX...
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    ORLY? What did you think of Chicago before?

    Damn, it's times like this that I miss TX...
    I only mildly hated it before. I'm wondering if they are trying to set a record for most bullets fired in a non-war zone.
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    I only mildly hated it before. I'm wondering if they are trying to set a record for most bullets fired in a non-war zone.
    It's annoying as ****. And the panicked attitude towards legal firearm ownership is nothing short of ridiculous. Like a Puritan matron who spotted a mouse, and felt the need to ascend a chair with the skirt held up in panic.

    I actually convinced the Mrs. to get a CC permit with me.
    Man, if I could, I would totally move.
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    I only mildly hated it before. I'm wondering if they are trying to set a record for most bullets fired in a non-war zone.
    When did the "war on drugs" end?
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    When did the "war on drugs" end?
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