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  1. Sarzis is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by cualltaigh View Post
    if you're claiming refugee status).
    What are the... perks, I guess? of claiming refugee status in Australia? Don't they have to meet some special requirements other than coming from a third world country, or some place with an armed conflict?
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    As someone, outside the North American continent, who has looked into the legal ways to move to the US and become a citizen. I think many Americans would be surprised at just how insurmountable a task it is unless you're very wealthy or work for a multi-national which is willing to transfer you.

    I worked out that the best option would be to use the Canadian working holiday visa program to get to Toronto, gain permanent residency and then use Toronto as a base to try and gain a job that would make me eligible for a working visa in the US.

    Britain has, in recent years, had massive waves of immigrtion that are likely proportionately much higher than the US. 10 years ago provincial towns would never have seen cars with non-UK number plates, Polish/East European food isles in supermarkets and specialist shops. In many places Polish/East Europeans immgrants have taken over as the dominant minority from people from the Indian Sub continent/Caribbean.

    If the rhetoric in the American media is to be believed, if the changes that have happened in the UK in the past 10 years had happened in the US, there would have been a revolution.

    The very radical change in much of provincial England, as a result of EE immigration, has created significant anger and a feeling of disenfranchisment, wihich has been made worse by the dominant left wing parties and the BBC, which castigated anyone who objected in even the slightest way as a racist.

    This sense of disenfranchisment was reflected in the UKIP vote in the recent EU elections.

    The irony being that if the left and in particular the BBC had not been so aggressive in stigmatising people who expressed concerns about immigration as racists there wouldn't have been the backlash there currently is.

    A fair system would enable people who want to move and contribute to a country be able to, but currently in all countries both left and right butt up against each. The left racistly believe that if only they can import enough non-whites, then they will create a pro-socialist majority, because of course only white people vote against socialism. The right racistly believe that if the left import enough non-whites, then they will create a pro-socialist majority, because of course only white people vote against socialism.

    The result being that people who just want to move to another place: work hard, play by the rules and build a life for themselves are denied that opportunity over bureaucratic nonsense.
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    Also should be said that for us Judoka in our mid-twenties the influx of EE imigrants has been a bit of a godsend.

    It's quite refreshing to take a break from randoriing knackered dads in their late 30s and 40s and have rumble with a Kowalski or a Dimitrov or Novak who is in their 20s and has decent skills.
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    Why wouldn't you just work in Canada? We are doing better than the US these days.
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    Why wouldn't you just work in Canada? We are doing better than the US these days.
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