Thread: Let's talk about body armor
6/10/2014 7:15pm, #1
Let's talk about body armor
Ok, so I try not to get played too hard by the sensationalist nature of journalism, but goddamn. Their seems to be a definite rising trend in shooting random strangers.
So, let's say this trend continues to the point where I feel some random asshole shooting me at the post office because Debrah wouldn't go to prom with him becomes a real and present danger.
While my chainmail is stylish and comes in handy when I get into knife fights with the homeless, I may want to upgrade to something more modern.
Recommendations? I realize that kevlar doesn't make bullets bounce off your body like superman, but I also understand it's handy in prevention pistol rounds from shredding my internal organs.
I've looked around on Ebay, and I've found low-end vests for about 300 bucks. As I understand it, those generally won't stop a rifle round, but will keep a handgun round outside of my spinal cord. And handguns seem to be the weapon of choice for most murderers hereabouts.The fool thinks himself immortal,
If he hold back from battle;
But old age will grant him no truce,
Even if spears spare him.
6/10/2014 7:19pm, #2
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In any case, body armor comes in different levels as to the protection offered. I suggest you do some research along those lines.
Also, ballistic vests don't necessarily give protection from knife attacks. "Stab vests" are usually sold as separate items for use in say, corrections facilities.
The various LEOs who post here will attest I'm sure as to how comfortable and cool all are to wear as a matter of course on a day in day out basis.Falling for Judo since 1980
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6/11/2014 3:12pm, #3
I have a vest, I never wear the damn thing, and I am sure it has expired by now. Does work well for some Halloween customs and scarring the hell out of my neighbors.
I know a lot of LEO who don't wear their vest because cheap ones SUCK ASS.
They are heavy, uncomfortable, restrict movement, and hot. Although probably not to the same extent as your chain mail?
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6/17/2014 7:33pm, #4
6/17/2014 7:42pm, #5
There you go. Comfort is king, I guess."No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal
6/19/2014 12:21pm, #6
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I have 2 different vests that are my regular use. My lighter vest is Kevlar and is fantastically light, but I think that if I take a round while wearing it, I might just wish I was dead. It is rated a level III, but I am thinking that the company is over-reaching with that classification. My heavier vest, and heavier is being generous, is a level III/IV and will stop just about anything that the average person might be getting shot with. this vest(plate carrier and plates) weighs in around 37 pounds. I don't really want to take rounds at all, but would prefer to be wearing this vest if that happens. It does take some getting used to wearing, but the overall trade-off is, IMO, worth it. MY heavier vest is made by AR500 and was just under $300, which included side plates and front and back.
I have used other vests with trauma plates and most of the comfort issues seem to come from the plate carrier more than the weight of the plates. All of them suck to wear for very long, but the decision is your whether you want comfort or protection, as both seems to be almost impossible to get in one setup.
Hope this helps.
6/19/2014 1:07pm, #7
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6/24/2014 1:45pm, #8I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.
6/26/2014 6:32am, #9
Protection, comfort and style. Perfect for surviving random armed hobos and if you fancy cracking into black market diamond sales.
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6/26/2014 8:22am, #10
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