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  1. Hedgehogey is offline
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    Just popping to note how butthurt imperialists are about losing this one 40 years later


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    Your question about tactics is a broad one. The war was fought progressively, and developmentally. What people expected in 1965 was different than what they expected in 1969, was different from what people expected in 1972. (1965, how can we lose? We can only win. 1969, how do we keep from losing? 1972, how do we get out?)

    With that, many "tactics" remain standard before, during, and after the Vietnam war. The book recommended to you earlier, Street without Joy, by Bernard Fall, is an excellent read, and in general terms the U.S. made many of the same tactical and strategic errors of the French.

    Street without Joy is a good place to start. The war in Indochina was part of a much larger chronology. We inherited it from the French in 1954. And, during their phase of the war we were supporting them upwards of 75-to-80 percent of their cost by 1954.

    I'm a historian by training. You'll find the military history of Southeast Asia during the 20th century a fascinating read.

    My mind ran to topics like riverine warfare, the Phoenix Program, the Communist Bloc countries training, supporting, and participating in operations within South Vietnam. It's a spiderweb of "tactics." It just depends what elements of modern warfare you focus on, but it is all there. Propaganda, agent development, assassinations, logistical support requirements, conventional warfare and unconventional warfare, each topic influences and folds into the next at some juncture.
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    Just popping to note how butthurt imperialists are about losing this one 40 years later
    U.S. involvement in Vietnam was originally a quid pro quo for France not blocking Germany's entry into NATO. A back-asswards reason to get involved in a war, that's for sure. I'm pretty sure the only people who really feel otherwise are the folks ghosting around D.C. who are still trying to justify why they were right to do so. Alas, this thread is about tactics, not politics, so let's keep things on topic.

    In case anyone was wondering, versions of the three tactics WoundedRonin was referring to in his first post appear to still be in use by conventional forces today, but with disguised names like "presence patrols." Or at least that's what it appears like to me, having never participated in such tomfoolery. I have taken part in a good number of long-offset baited ambushes and movements to contact, but modern weaponry and close air support in contemporary (non-jungle) operating environments rendered those effective, at least in the acute sense of the word.
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