7/23/2014 1:35pm, #91
7/23/2014 1:39pm, #92
Refereeing is good, I phased into it more heavily as I got out of grad school and started working. At times though there is a conflict between coaching and reffing (in Judo at least), especially once I got to national level (not there now, it's been years and years ago).Falling for Judo since 1980
7/23/2014 2:40pm, #93
I have learned to deal with HCG and over-the-back grips with a tight underhook grip around the waist, from which I hip-fight and fairly regularly hit a diving o goshi, or I very strategically play my in-bounds/out-of-bounds game, haha.
Refereeing for sambo won't conflict too much, because 95% of the tournaments I work will be overseas.
7/23/2014 3:24pm, #94
I can understand people getting dismantled by it though. In Judo, specialists in over the back (to belt or otherwise), especially tall ones (and they were usually taller) used to be one of the most difficult and hated style of gripping with which I dealt. Being only 5'7" myself, I was often (usually) a bit shorter than my training partners or opponents in shiai. When I competed regularly, those sorts of grips were legal, but were gradually phased out. They've always been considered by a lot of judoka as "imporoper/not proper" judo in any case, regardless of the IJF rules in place.
Putting hand or shoulder on hip is now verboten in judo (IJF rules) shiai, but the over the back grip/cross grips are highly restricted as well, as you know. As far as it not stopping "committed hips", well, depends on the exact situation, whose hips and how committed they are, as well as how bad a position uke is in when the attack is initiated.
Send me a PM with the BB's name, I might know him/her, as I am from Wichita Falls and did Judo in Texas extensively for about 6 years before moving to Louisiana.
Falling for Judo since 1980
7/23/2014 4:09pm, #95
I also play sleeve grips at the wrist a lot, which helps me combat bombing HCG attacks. This kid Wade's OTB grip is so nasty and aggressive that he has given me a couple of flash knockouts with it, as he sort of clubs it across your jaw and head. I've seen a couple of people melt when he gets that grip in competition, because it's like taking a really, really hard punch. I'll grab it as it comes in with two hands, and then usually switch to a 2-on-1, where I have the ability to move heavier and taller opponents. From there, kata guruma(s) galore.
7/23/2014 5:56pm, #96
Catching the incoming hand into a 2 on 1 was my bread and butter for dealing with that sort of thing, as well as trying to adjust angles and get in an attack off the grip first to upset their rhythm. Truth is though, experts at that sort of gripping have seen most of the normal counter and tactics so it get tough.
I had one guy at the club at Tulane University for a while. He was 6' tall, but fought in the then -71 kg division. He was so tall and wiry it was crazy...he bent in the middle like a worm or semi-cooked piece of spaghetti, which made doing any sort of Seoi Nage on him an exercise in frustration. He had been trained by a former German olympic team member in all places Tennessee, who was an expert on over the back/sambo/russian style of Judo, complete with the attack sequence of ouchi/Khabarelli/Sasae etc et al. The kids could not do much other Judo than that, but he was VERY good at it. We had some incredible battles at practice while he was training for Nationals etc. CAtching the bomb HCG/OTB grip was what I had to do, LOL.
I killed him in ne waza, though, LOL. But that wasn't unusual back then.
As my style of judo sounds considerably different than yours, I rarely got into hip-fights. Small and fast -65 kg judoka usually got into Seoi Otoshi wars, LOL, not hip fights. Although I have seen quite a few of those types of hip throw battles, even quite recently in Canada.Falling for Judo since 1980
7/23/2014 6:24pm, #97
It isn't intentional, per se, but he doesn't take care to prevent it from happening, either. He is so singularly-minded during randori and shiai that it just happens. For me, if anything, it slaps me awake and reminds me not to be a lazyass.
Re: the hip fighting, I would have never thought I should hip fight, especially since ai have shitty knees and don't feel comfortable being close. However, my Israeli coach said that hip fighting should be my thing, because of my hip/leg and trunk musculature. It got me thrown a whole shitload at first, and in very painful ways, but lo and behold, it started working eventually. He definitely saw something in me that I didn't.
"You hafv good legs, use your heeps. Very strrong."
7/23/2014 7:05pm, #98Falling for Judo since 1980
7/23/2014 7:39pm, #99
LOL, yeah. Admittedly, I didn't follow the advice at first. And I've taken some incredibly painful falls doing it... flash knockouts, smashed up ribs, even a liver-shot KO, but the results are there.
7/24/2014 5:15pm, #100