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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    That wasn't your point at all. That's not what you said and it's way too reasonable to have come from you. No, that's what you finally backtracked to 29 posts deep after you had a coherent moment and realized you were talking complete bullshit for the last two days.
    You're so funny. Quote anything I've posted, and I'll stand by it.
    He should be in title contention for sure at LHW. He's not moving up unproven, he's beaten up bigger men, and now trimmed down to beat up smaller men.
    Jones is smaller than the people DC has fought already. See above. Jones isn't smaller than DC, Jones is smaller than the HW opposition DC has beaten.

    Jones fully hydrated isn't going to be 250 or 265.

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    The real question mark about DC has been the weight cut. Could he safely come down? He could, and did.

    I think going undefeated, and winning every round including over 4 top ten HW's is enough to deserve some hype. Devil you may not have agreed with his HW ranking, or think that LHW is so much stronger, but if you agree he should be in title contention, then you kinda agree there is a buzz there for a good reason - even if you resent it.

    If he beats up Hendo, does he deserve some hype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja View Post
    The real question mark about DC has been the weight cut. Could he safely come down? He could, and did.
    Get fucking real. There was never any question about whether he could SAFELY come down. That's just some bullshit he said because he didn't know if he was willing to lose the weight. The ************ is somewhere between 5'10" and 6 feet, depending on what source you read. There's not a 5'10" dude on the planet that can't get down to 205lbs (after a weight cut) safely.

    Cormier making 205 isn't like a tall guy like Mir trying to make 205 when he's already ripped at 240. Cormier wrestled at 212 pounds just a few years ago and he's been carrying a good bit of extra body fat. He wasn't lean.

    Basically, everything you say is wrong. Always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja View Post

    If he beats up Hendo, does he deserve some hype?

    **** no. Hendo is always tough, but he's a goddamn fossil. Cormier is SUPPOSED to be able to beat Hendo. It will only be noteworthy if he doesn't. I want to see him against the hungry young lions.

    Henderson has lost three of his last four and his last win was against another guy who's drowning in losses. He's a perfect example of the of bones the UFC keeps tossing to Cormier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    Get fucking real. There was never any question about whether he could SAFELY come down. That's just some bullshit he said because he didn't know if he was willing to lose the weight.
    yeah, why would a guy who experienced kidney failure cutting weight have concerns about cutting weight....?

    Honestly, you're not even trying. sad troll is sad.

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    its not so much cutting weight though when its just not eating so much ****. the dude is fat. he is about the same height as me for fucks sake, and he doesnt even have that kind of david tua/mark hunt frame. he is like roy nelson. if he was dehydrating for 205 you would have a point.

    also are you REALLY comparing the people jones has beaten to the people cormier has beaten? like HW is anywhere near as stacked as LHW? jones has been beating up on fucking savages. cormiers last fight was against a fucking barista, and his next fight is against the living relic, dan hendo. he will destroy hendo of course, and there will be more hype, bla bla bla, and then he will probably lose to jones, and everyone will stop caring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja View Post
    yeah, why would a guy who experienced kidney failure cutting weight have concerns about cutting weight....?
    That **** tends to happen when you don't maintain your weight properly, then try to cut way too much. It has zero to do with him being able to drop a weight class over a period of several months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja View Post
    What tools are there for Jones?
    Just because I feel scrappy, today - Bones can touch DC without leaving his corner. It's an asset we know he can work, and the only real competition he has had to that end was Gustafson, who was also handily dispatched.

    I'm happy to see Jones get an ass whooping, but I don't think DC is the guy to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by submessenger View Post
    Just because I feel scrappy, today - Bones can touch DC without leaving his corner. It's an asset we know he can work, and the only real competition he has had to that end was Gustafson, who was also handily dispatched.
    I don't think this'll be the first time DC has had a reach disadvantage. Nothing in his style is dependent on reach.

    Also, was Gus handily dispatched, or did he lose a close one? Many fans seem to think it was rather close.

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    Cormier has great MMA striking, but terrible pure striking (though his ring awareness isn't bad for a wrestler, and he actually uses body shots). He would be wrecked in any sort of striking competition, but like his training partner Cain, he is an absolute stud at mixing up striking and wrestling. He'll throw strikes, and just when an opponent is expecting a strike, he goes for a takedown, and vice versa. Its the same way Velasquez managed to outstrike JDS, despite the fact that JDS is indisputably the superior striker.

    Where or not they're on the same level, they clearly use similar tactics and have similar strengths. Jones hasn't faced a guy with a style like Cormier, but neither has Cormier faced someone like Jones, so it'll be an interesting match.

    One observation, however: Jones relies a lot on his kicking game to create distance. Normally he doesn't have to worry about being taken down off of a kick, so he can throw his legs as much as he wants. He will have to be more cautious against Cormier, however.

    Also, Henderson is going to get wrecked by Cormier. He tends to only hunt for the right overhand these days, and Cormier already faced a bigger version of that in beating Nelson. Its just a terribly stylistic match up for current day Hendo, regardless of Cormier's talent level. I don't think this match will prove a thing, other then the fact that Hendo should consider retirement soon.

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