Thread: Raw Talent vs. The Rest of Us
3/03/2014 8:37pm, #21Falling for Judo since 1980
3/03/2014 8:42pm, #22
The teacher is surely correct to be positive with his students, more power too him. It's all about relative performance to where you start, really. Exception would be those who aspire to elite level competition. It's still relative, but there is a sort of absolute level of performance that will be necessary, and not everybody will have the time, talent, or energy to get there and succeed.Falling for Judo since 1980
3/03/2014 8:47pm, #23
Regarding the grabbing the back of your collar thing, you can't stop it all the time (yeah, I know, you know that already). I've been there and done that one, being 5'7" "tall". And yes you can learn to avoid/block/counter that grip (not all the time, but more than 50% of the time for sure).
I think your attitude is a great one, BTW, to work on a sequence to throw despite the "superior" grip.Falling for Judo since 1980
3/03/2014 8:52pm, #24
That was my focus. Also, I tried to learn as much as possible about Judo academically as well. Probably because I was such a good academic student as well.
Even with wonderful god given talents, to get to the top, you gotta work your ass off.Falling for Judo since 1980
3/04/2014 12:29am, #25Whitsunday Martial Arts Airlie Beach North Queensland.
3/04/2014 3:36am, #26
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To be fair in the art world we often scoff at the idea of talent as well.
Art doesn't require a huge physical component like martial arts, but there factors that can be considered to make up talent. Nothing mystical there - it can come down to just the way information is processed to the individual, their overall attention span, fine motor skills etc. For a lot of folks, it's just a matter of never stopping their exploration and having a thirst to know and explore more.
As with everything art or athletic - talent doesn't mean **** without blood, sweat, tears and consistency. People say I'm a 'talented' artist, but I wouldn't really be so damn talented these days without hard work. I just let my innate curiosity of the world blossom.
It's 3:30 AM and I should be sleeping but I'm writing flower tangents on Bullshido. Kill me.
3/04/2014 3:52am, #27
Talent is definitely a factor. I am not a naturally athletic person. At all. I started MT around the same time I joined Bullshido, and you know what? I am still having problems executing the basic techniques. I still have problems with range and timing. I have a lot of days where I wonder if I am just not meant to be doing this. I keep at it though. All this means is that I have to work harder than everyone else if I want to be good.
3/04/2014 11:30am, #28
Everybody wants to be "good" at something, to feel successful. Me too, LOL !
The deal is, the definition of success sucks for most folks. Progress is success, and that is one of the most important things I try to teach now, it's the relative progress that matters most. Relative to yourself, first, and then to others as a gauge of where you fit in to the population.
Even in terms of competitions, a student can make good progress and not win a single match. I should know, that's how my judo competition career started. Getting my ass kicked, throwing a guy by surprise every now and then, but basically getting my ass kicked for several months. But I was getting better and better, and finally started catching up with my peers (most of whom had been doing judo since they were little kids).
In any case, it's how you look at what you do in terms of progress. If you, or anybody else, keeps training with a competent coach, you'll get better. You may never win the secret hidden to the death Kumite in Macao, but you might get better than you were.Falling for Judo since 1980
3/04/2014 12:17pm, #29
3/04/2014 12:36pm, #30
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