The best part of this thread is watching everyone scoot away from Devil's hyperbolic rhetoric and then write basically the same damn thing he stated.
In my youthful(er) days, I actually remember my family owning some VHS tapes of My Little Pony from the 80s that my sisters used to watch and hell, I didn't mind seeing it with 'em. I never went out of my way to see it myself, mind you, but if it was on I'd stick around, I didn't really think of it as something I "shouldn't be interested in" (I think this was when I was around 6-7, for the record). That said, however, when talking with my peers at school you can bet I never brought that show up, because I guess I realized that no one really cared to hear about it (nor was I invested enough to want to talk about it), and I guess that's what it boils down to; situational awareness.
I'm willing to guess that we all have interests or hobbies or whatever that may lie outside the norm in some way, or are simply inappropriate to discuss in certain situations or with certain people (i.e. divulging your porn preferences to your boss over lunch). As an adult, it's typically easy to identify these interests, and in what circles they are appropriate to bring to light, which may be less obvious to a child. I can appreciate the parent's resolve not to restrict their child and let him "be himself" and what have you, but at the end of the day, (one of) their task(s) is to teach him what is and is not suitable in certain social situations, and it would probably have been wise to nip this in the bud from the get-go.
To clarify, I am not a brony, I have never seen the show and I never intend to, and the concept of grown men watching a show intended for little girls is rather amusing to me, but live and let live, I suppose.
Personally I'm loving all the "I'M NOT A BRONY HONEST" comments.
Originally Posted by It is Fake
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Originally Posted by Vieux Normand
If bronie-ism compells some one to attempt suicide is that not evidence that the person in question may have already suffered from debilitating brain damage?
JMHO, suicidal bronies is a problem that solves itself.
Everyone? Of course!
Originally Posted by It is Fake
I, however, never hid the fact that I would parrot Devil's statements on pygmy ponies, dental-floss-bushes and--of course--Teletubbies seen through a hallucinatory haze.
I will now, therefore, goosestep off into the sunset with an extremely-justified sense of smug superiority.
I teach my kids not to care too much what the other kids in school think or say about what they do. You don't have to watch MLP to be made fun of, kids will find something. Better to have a thick skin.
A little of my back story includes loving every single one of the Disney movies, including the princess ones like Snow White and Sleeping Beauty up to Tangled and Frozen. I get a lot of enjoyment out of songs like A Whole New World and Under The Sea and Beauty and the Beast because I'm a musician and a performer at heart. Nothing can stop me from being that, even if I have no male actor/singer friends to share that with.
That "nothing" that "can't stop me" included and may even continue to include my older brothers. I have one brother 3 years older and another 6 years older, and they didn't stop throwing around the words "gay" and "******" until one moved to Florida 10 years ago and the other converted to LDS Mormonism about 3 years ago. Even then I haven't performed any show tunes where they'd hear it happen because I'm not sure how they'd react to their brother doing what makes him happy.
I don't mean to go into a lot of detail about my personal life, but I'm "reporting in" to this thread as "the 11 year old that has been there." Even as a teenager playing the video game Kingdom Hearts I had to feign disinterest in certain parts of the game because I didn't want my brothers to literally throw a screaming fit at my mom for letting me play such "gay" a video game. Even still I would get mentions and whispers of being "such a ******" for it.
To get to my point: I was homeschooled my whole life, so my brothers were my bullies, and my parents didn't do jack **** about my brothers the whole time. If there was a commercial on television for the remastered DVD version of Aladdin and I hinted to my mom that it would be a good gift to me, my brother would instinctively raise his voice in protest, successfully making my mom not care about what anyone had to say. My dad doesn't like fiction or cartoons to begin with, so he was useless to me in those battles as well.
So in every instance you blame the parents. Blame them for not raising their son to understand the consequences of their actions. Dancing and skipping, even considering watching a show called My Little Pony, anything of that nature needs to be checked. Even if a little boy likes the "boyest" of "boy shows" you'll eventually have someone pick on him for it. It may as well be rubber stamped right into every page of psychology 101. "If you like it, someone will pick on you for it."
So even though I'm a high level martial artist in my school, a future acupuncturist and family counselor, a classically trained and professional level musical performer, top-tier boyfriend according to the girlfriend, and an exceptional employee at my part-time job, I have plenty of baggage thanks to lackluster parenting. The difference between that 11 year old and myself is the grace of God that I was supplied with to not follow through with the thoughts of suicide I had, and my passion outweighing my pain. It's poetic, even if you think my post was useless. And you telling me that it was won't change anything.
Tl;dr: I was where he was, I know what it's like, kid needed to understand and know how to deal with the consequences of his actions.
P.S. I've never watched MLP; I don't have cable, and have no reason to even give it my attention. I know it's got that weird cult following, but bronies and 11 year old boys watching it are VERY mutually exclusive. Trust me, I've browsed 4chan (that was meant to be tongue-in-cheek/humorous. Don't have an aneurysm).
Another thing that irritates me is all the talk about how the bullies should be held responsible. Oh, really? Let's explore this idea.
How do we plan to hold these bullies responsible? What's our game plan here? Foster homes? Juvenile detention? Expulsion from school for the rest of the year? For what? For laughing at somebody and calling them names?
How is that reasonable? What about all the other kids in school who made fun of somebody but didn't suffer any of those consequences because the kid they picked on didn't decide to hang himself from his bunk bed?
How do we identify the bullies? The kid who hung himself isn't saying ****, obviously. Should we punish the **** out of kids based on the words of some other kid's parents?
These kids aren't responsible for **** except being dicks on a normal dickish kid level. Maybe they deserve detention or something. That's really about it. They aren't more culpable for their behavior just because this kid reacted in a ridiculous way to it.
I doubt that any of the bullies had any idea how this would turn out, so I don't think that the more severe punishments you mentioned would be appropriate. I also think it is a normal part of life in any social group for the group to impose standards for membership, its just a question of how.
Originally Posted by Devil
However, you can't just let it go. At the least, someone has to sit down with these kids, assuming they can be identified, and make sure they understand what happened and their part in it. Otherwise, the message from the adults is that its open season on the weird kids. You can't stop kids from doing dickish kid things, but you can help them set some limits.
Its the parents that are mainly responsible. A parent's first and most important job is to teach their kid how to survive in the world when the parents are gone. The two in this case didnt do a very good job.
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