Thread: Bo/jo to bokken

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    Bo/jo to bokken

    I started practicing with the Bo and Jo and I have gotten fairly good at it.... I have recently been introduced to the bokken and I'm actually having a more difficult time than I thought I would. Can anyone recommend a good YouTube series or even a book that may be helpful in showing me how to use the bokken properly? All is appreciated.

    -Ashlee

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    Hi Wisdom_Heart, welcome to the site.

    This is probably not the best forum to get a response from the forum members, may I suggest you make a post introducing yourself in newbietown, if you also give an indication of your previous training and where in the world you live you may also get recommendations on where you can train to improve your skills, just a little advice youtube and printed materials are probably not going to be among those recommendations


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    I suggest you look up some sweet youtube videos from a dude called Mountainous, he is awesome with a bo staff and all cool weaponz.

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    Welcome to Bullshido. What no one has told you yet is that it's extremely doubtful that you will learn proper technique from a video. Utilizing a bokken properly and efficiently is a very technically demanding subject. One that requires constant correction and feedback from an instructor that is physically present.

    If you attempt to learn to use the bokken by yourself from video instruction alone the odds are very high that you will incorporate bad habits that will set you back.

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    My apologies. I didn't mean to post this on the wrong forum. I do appreciate the honesty and I will see if I can't find someone skilled to show me the techniques properly. Thanks everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisdom_heart View Post
    I started practicing with the Bo and Jo and I have gotten fairly good at it.... I have recently been introduced to the bokken and I'm actually having a more difficult time than I thought I would. Can anyone recommend a good YouTube series or even a book that may be helpful in showing me how to use the bokken properly? All is appreciated.

    -Ashlee
    Your newbietown intro shows you are at a place that does judo / aikido / hapkido / jujitsu. Best course of advice is to ask the teacher that deals with weapons there. Although they may not be specialists, they SHOULD have a rudimentary idea if they are teaching weapons. At least you won't hurt yourself or anyone else during class times. If they don't teach weapons, get instruction from someone that does.

    You have linked bo and jo together - they are not the same. They share a lot of similarities but some leverage and striking principles are not the same. If you have been taught to treat them as interchangeable, then I question who taught you. If its something you came up with yourself, you're wrong and this shows why you shouldn't be playing about with things you don't understand.
    You state that you have gotten "pretty good at it" - by who's standards?
    Stay away from youtube and pinted material until you have had proper instruction.

    Otherwise, I suggest Mountainous or realultimatepower.net

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    I am aware that bo and jo are different. I have been training with both. I have gotten fairly good at it according to a friend of mine who has taught Bo Staff for 5 years.

    I hadn't thought about asking instructors that I learn from simply because we haven't used them. I will be asking tonight.

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    Bo can be divided into a partnered drill or single drill - walking the bo - and can lead you to Okinawan Bo. This is a different use of the Bo and builds on your earlier understanding. In our style, it is taught as:
    - Stances
    - Blocks
    - Strikes
    Leading to Okinawan Bo Kata 1 and later Bo Kata 2 (more difficult).
    All of this leads to Okinawan Bo Fixed Kumite (10 sets) and then Continuous Kumite. Both of these are paired exercises.

    Jo is taught with Bokken hence Jo v Bokken. Again this is a paired exercise. You will often find this in Kendo schools where they also practice Iai-do. Schools such as Hizen here in London teach such as part of their syllabi.

    Some schools do teach Kobudo (weapons, Nunchukas, Bo, Bokken, Jo, Sai, Katana more) so you might consider this option if you can find such. It rather depends on where you live and its availability. As mentioned, consider a good Kendo school as well. Aikido schools will also offer Jo (or should).

    As has been said, vids/DVDs will give you a patina of knowledge but it's better to get physical guidance from an instructor. Good luck.

    Bo can be divided into a partnered drill or single drill - walking the bo - and can lead you to Okinawan Bo. This is a different use of the Bo and builds on your earlier understanding. In our style, it is taught as:
    - Stances
    - Blocks
    - Strikes
    Leading to Okinawan Bo Kata 1 and later Bo Kata 2 (more difficult).
    All of this leads to Okinawan Bo Fixed Kumite (10 sets) and then Continuous Kumite. Both of these are paired exercises.

    Jo is taught with Bokken hence Jo v Bokken. Again this is a paired exercise. You will often find this in Kendo schools where they also practice Iai-do. Schools such as Hizen here in London teach such as part of their syllabi.

    Some schools do teach Kobudo (weapons, Nunchukas, Bo, Bokken, Jo, Sai, Katana more) so you might consider this option if you can find such. It rather depends on where you live and its availability. As mentioned, consider a good Kendo school as well. Aikido schools will also offer Jo (or should).

    As has been said, vids/DVDs will give you a patina of knowledge but it's better to get physical guidance from an instructor. Good luck.

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    Jo vs bokken kata is typically jodo not kendo or iaido.

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