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    Quote Originally Posted by CapnMunchh View Post
    My translation does discuss the three timings, in the Fire Book. I've come across the same ideas in the context of Aikido and Karate. I think its in all striking or weapon based Japanese MA, at least (I don't know about Judo).

    Since a punch is a punch is a punch, I wouldn't be surprised to find similar teachings in other striking or weapon based arts besides the Japanese.
    It's been 20 years since I read Five Rings, LOL.

    My remarks were general in nature and could apply to anything. Go no sen for example is basically counterattack, in Judo, would be a counter throw (for example) in reaction to an attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    I've read about before, during and after timings in a Medieval fechtbuch.
    I imagine the concept(s) are fundamental to any sort of h2h/weapon in hand fighting, regardless of culture.
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    Kendoka Kenji Tokitsu had an interesting approach to it. In essence, he wrote that a single step from kamae is one beat. The switching from the on guard position/chudan/seigan to the point of maximum potential(loading up the swing) equals one beat. From there to the point of contact is one beat. He noticed some kendoka do a cut by taking a step=swing upwards, rear foot follows=do the cut. His interpretation is that the moment your lead foot contacts the ground(taken a step), the cut must be finished already. Take it for what's it worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baby_cart View Post
    Kendoka Kenji Tokitsu had an interesting approach to it. In essence, he wrote that a single step from kamae is one beat. The switching from the on guard position/chudan/seigan to the point of maximum potential(loading up the swing) equals one beat. From there to the point of contact is one beat. He noticed some kendoka do a cut by taking a step=swing upwards, rear foot follows=do the cut. His interpretation is that the moment your lead foot contacts the ground(taken a step), the cut must be finished already. Take it for what's it worth.
    This is just standard kendo. The cut and the landing of the front foot happen at the same time.

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