Thread: What a terrible Heel Hook...
2/02/2014 1:37pm, #1
What a terrible Heel Hook...
I am not sure of the context as watching UFC in my time zone is just not feasible. But what a terrible heel hook. I feel this is the result of "catch and release" training where people feel heel hooks are too dangerous to finish in training or people being so scared of them that they tap to the sight of the lock rather than the lock itself.
There is zero control over that leg, no control of his balance and those toes aren't even trapped when he is cranking on the heel. The only reason he didn't escape is because he was having more fun posing.
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2/02/2014 2:17pm, #2
Hail mary at the end of the last round when he's well behind. Desperation rather than incompetence.
2/02/2014 3:02pm, #3
He had 13 seconds to reap the knee or lock an inside triangle or hell even 50/50 sweep and go for an inverted heel hook. Even if it was locked in during the bell it's a real threat. Playing with the heel without locking the toes or controlling the leg isn't a Hail Mary. It's nothing.
2/02/2014 6:55pm, #4
What annoyed me even more was Rogan saying "there's some sambo right there", during the earlier attempt.
...except heelhooks aren't allowed in any international sambo rulesets. Him standing up during his opponent's leglock attempt was the most sambo-esque thing that happened.
2/02/2014 9:29pm, #5
Go into a full reap, push on the foot back as well and then roll into a nice controlled toe hold could have also been an *actual* option instead of playing ankle hugs with his bicep, while he lay docile on the bottom.Daniel: I don't know if I know enough karate.
Miyagi: Feeling correct.
Daniel: You sure know how to make a guy feel confident.
Miyagi: You trust the quality of what you know, not quantity.
2/02/2014 10:35pm, #6
That last part came screaming back into my head. "Tap. Tap or I snap".
2/03/2014 12:04am, #7
2/15/2014 10:22pm, #8
This kind of goes back to my hierarchy of foot locks. Always go for achilles lock first, then transition to heel hook ONCE leg control is established. Learn to do solid achilles locks with proper leg control and heel hooks will be cake. Problem is people rush to the heel hook and disregard position. The achilles lock is what keeps you and you opponent connected until leg control is established.
This guy clearly did not know how to control the leg, hips, and balance of his opponent.
I would selfishly add that Al Iaquinta's scissor takedown to heel hook attempt on Kevin Lee was a thing on beauty. I taught him that years ago when I was coaching at his gym in Long Island. It brought a tear to my eye ;) Sadly he did not finish it, but the leg control was great! If Lee was not grabbing Al's glove it would have been all over. He pulled the same scissor off when he won the 2007 ASA North American Freestyle Sambo Championships (I gotta digitize those vids).
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2/19/2014 4:01am, #9
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2/19/2014 9:57am, #10
Ask sambosteve about it. He was one of the progenitors.