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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post
    I haven't quite finished shopping/research yet, but based on recommendations here and from a friend who's quite knowledgeable concerning firearms, I'm leaning heavily toward the Savage Arms Rascal.
    I really liked the Rascal, but they were scarce when I was buying, plus I had to buy two at once, so price was a factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    My kids started shooting 6 and 7 respectively. Manipulating the round into the magazine was a bit complicated for them. Inserting the magazine same issue, and especially hitting the mag release while performing muzzle control, dropping the mag, etc. Then there was manipulating the bolt to chamber a cartridge. Then unloading as well. To hold the breach open is complicated (pull back bolt, hold it back, push in slide lock and takes too much strength.

    No way to tell if the weapon is cocked either. On a Cricket at least you have to manually cock the rifle.

    So, overall, 10/22 operation is too complicated for a beginning shooter, especially a younger kid. They need to concentrate on the basics of safe firearm handling and marksmanship, not manipulating multiple controls.
    Thanks for sharing. I have a ruger 10/22 but didn't really learn to shoot until I was a preteen, so it wasn't much of an issue. My wife and I don't have kids yet, but when I do, I intend to teach them responsible firearm handling and shooting from a much younger age than I started.
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    I used a 10/22 until I could shoot Junior Division when I used a Savage bolt action (don't remember exact make)

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    I suppose I should mention I first learned to shoot using an AK47 at the age of 8. My point?
    I don't know what my point is other than it doesn't really matter what the gun is as long as the instruction is good.

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    Single shot blot action would be my preference, for the reasons mentioned above, plus ease of breakdown and cleaning. The Rascal sounds perfect.
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    I converted my Ruger 10-22 to a ZK-22. It's pretty much the definition of tacticool, but it's fun as hell to shoot, could easily be handled by a kid, and the ammo is dirt cheap:



    For those who haven't seen this, what you're looking at is basically a standard 10-22 with a funny looking stock.

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    Yeah, .22 ammo used to be cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Yeah, .22 ammo used to be cheap.
    I remember $13 a brick (500 rounds) at the local 7-11 convenience store. BB's and pellets too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Yeah, .22 ammo used to be cheap.
    The local shop got 4, yeah 4 bricks of 525 each in last week. Just basic Federal lead rn bullets, standard velocity.

    60 bucks a brick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    The local shop got 4, yeah 4 bricks of 525 each in last week. Just basic Federal lead rn bullets, standard velocity.

    60 bucks a brick...
    Unfortunately that's about the average now, at least for the moment.

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