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  1. ermghoti is online now
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    I don't see anything excessive here.
    That's what she said.
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    DROP SEIONAGI ************! Except I don't know Judo, so it doesn't work, and he takes my back.
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    I generally think of police brutality as continuing to effect violence against someone who's already complying. This guy was not complying.
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    Better ways to force compliance than stick wacking.

    Which is always going to look bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    Better ways to force compliance than stick wacking.

    Which is always going to look bad.
    They are cops, what ever they do is going to look bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgace View Post
    This video is starting the social media rounds:



    I do not know anything about what this guy was doing but obviously he is being arrested. Was Taser'ed and is still refusing to roll over and comply with being cuffed. One officer applies some baton strikes to the subjects lower legs. One officer tries to roll the guy over and he starts kicking...eventually they roll him and cuff him and its over.

    People are yelling "police brutality" all over the place...I really don't see it. Sure they could have piggy piled on the guy and still wound up having to "stick" him...there didn't appear to be any "gratuitous" use of force. The guy using the baton "looks" bad to the uninitiated I guess, but the lower legs are a valid target for that tool and the guy was using his legs to kick at officers. I saw no kicks, head strikes, multiple officers "piling on" with punches/kicks/sticks/etc. Sure they "could have" piled on the guy and wrestled him but they also could use the tools they have and attempt to gain compliance.

    Someone keeps saying "they keep on Tasing him!" But I can't really tell if they did or how many times, the guy doesn't stiffen up or exhibit many of the physical indications of "taking a ride" that I can see.

    I think this is yet another example of people just not knowing what they are looking at or having some sort of expectation of what "nice" use of force is supposed to look like.

    Thoughts?

    I see a bunch of cops not willing to go hands on. Basically they're trying to get the guy to his stomach and the guy is unwilling roll over and follow directions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    They are cops, what ever they do is going to look bad.
    Not in my experience. A pile on looks better.

    Gets a better reaction anyway.
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    Never pile on when a cop has the stick out....trust me. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregaquaman View Post
    Not in my experience. A pile on looks better.

    Gets a better reaction anyway.
    Right, In your experience, not mine. We will disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgace View Post
    Never pile on when a cop has the stick out....trust me. :)
    Lol. I have done that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    I generally think of police brutality as continuing to effect violence against someone who's already complying. This guy was not complying.
    This. If a cop tells you to do something just do it, it's not rocket science.
    "Won't fight me in the ring? Don't fight me on the street."
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