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    .30 M1 Carbine Hollow Point

    A customer is wanting to produce hollow point bullets with his drill press. I'm not a fan of the .30 carbine but he's small and owns both the M1 carbine and an AMT Automag III.

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    Customer wants to do at home on his drill press with 110gr round nose bullets.

    Doesn't seem to care about the issues of producing a concentric hole in an existing bullet. I've offered to machine a selection with varying hole diameters and depths to help dial in before producing a fixture. He doesn't seem concerned, just wants to get better expansion.

    I've never reloaded this round. Looking for any information on feed issues I may encounter or other gremlins you people foresee as waiting to bite my ass.

    He's also looking for plain lead no jacket bullets if can find.

    Round sucks anywhere past 200 yards as is. Accuracy is going to probably be **** at 100. For hunting he says. I'm starting to think it's not deer. Looking at 200-500 rounds per sitting.

    .309" diameter +0/-.003 to work with for bullet dimensions makes it a challenge already.

    My background is tool and die and have shot competitively in everything from bench rest to trap.

    I'm doing this for free. He's the best damn chiropractor I've ever known and it's a barter situation.

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    They are commercially available as loaded ammo, for example:


    You can buy the bullets, for example at midwayusa.com.

    I've seen handloading articles using cast bullets for the .30 carbine in gun rags.

    I'd say he's wasting his time.

    Here is a good read on cast bullets in the 30 Carbine...
    http://www.shootersforum.com/handloa...0-carbine.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    They are commercially available as loaded ammo, for example:


    You can buy the bullets, for example at midwayusa.com.

    I've seen handloading articles using cast bullets for the .30 carbine in gun rags.

    I'd say he's wasting his time.

    Here is a good read on cast bullets in the 30 Carbine...
    http://www.shootersforum.com/handloa...0-carbine.html
    Yeah, I think he's wasting his time too.

    Thanks for the link. Good read and definitely will forward to him with recommendation to stay away from the cast bullets.
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    Why make your own HP's when they are easy to find anywhere reloading supplies are sold?

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    Why make your own HP's when they are easy to find anywhere reloading supplies are sold?

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    He's obviously onto something. Buy bulk, cheap, FJM bullets, drill holes, and Viola! Perfectly functional, no doubt exceptionally accurate (well, as much as a .30 carbine can be), devastating terminal performance, and well cheap !
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    I can produce a rotating fixture holding twelve bullets with a total indicated run out (TIR) of less than .001".

    Problem is, the bullet diameter has a tolerance of 3x that alone. Add to that he's doing the work in a drill press so using an actual drill bit is out of the question given this is a glorified drill jig.

    Still, he's willing to trade good chiro and at my age, I'm starting to really appreciate the work he's done on me for many years.

    To add, he's an old Shotokan BB. Maybe he doesn't want to hunt deer but really for a SHTF situation.

    At least I've found no jacket is definitely not the way to go.

    Anybody interested in drawings once finished can shoot a PM. I've played with handgun loads in the past for the jollies of obtaining maximum expansion, varied penetration and other characteristics off topic to this thread.
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    My take?

    Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I just don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    My take?

    Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I just don't get it.
    It's cheap cheap cheap and he can barter with Hungryjoe, it's just so obvious...

    I think Hungryjoe is going to get the good end of the deal though. Makes you think about the true value of chiropractice, eh ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    I guess.
    Well, Hungryjoe likes chiropractic, can whip up a jig for the guy,who will drill out the bullets himself (can you imagine anything more boring...probably, but...).

    Chiro isn't cheap, and must not be covered by Hungryjoe's insurance (Obamacare sucks), or he wouldn't even be going there. So Hungryjoe wins...
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