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  1. Scrapper is online now
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    The movie ending was better, and made more sense.

    Jon's assistance was merely condensing Lori's subplot. There was too much material to cover in a feature-film, and I commend Snyder for knowing exactly which elements would make for the best movie. Not every character got fully developed, but I knew going in that there was never going to be enough time for it, so I was OK with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    I know many a comic nerd that swears by the show. I have never read Green Arrow.
    It's okay. They're trying way too hard to make Green Arrow into The Dark Knight, which has come at the cost of Green Arrow's two biggest assets: his beard and his personality. I realize that Green Arrow has a long and proud tradition of being a knockoff of Batman, but they lost a lot of things that made him unique.
    That said, I still enjoy it and follow, and I like the way they've reinterpreted a lot of the mythology of Green Arrow. They've done a good job at pulling out themes and ideas from the comics (social justice and class warfare, Ollie''s constant betraying of the confidence of his allies, etc.) without just mimicking storylines. In some cases, I enjoy the versions of the characters from the show (Merlyn, Deathstroke) better than those from the comics.
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    Second, there was no reason to change up the ending. The only reason I can fathom as to why that decision was made involves budget constraints. If that is what predicated the change than I suppose I can forgive it but I was still disappointed.
    I think the ending was changed to appeal to a wider audience who would have found the original conclusion from the comic book 'weird' or even 'stupid'.
    See Scrapper's post..

    Not every character got fully developed, but I knew going in that there was never going to be enough time for it, so I was OK with it.
    This is an absolutely essential approach to watching comic-book films. As a comic reader you need to accept this as a fact of the matter when it comes to the difference between mediums and deal with it, or you will never be able to enjoy these movies. Not just as it pertains to character development, but to a whole lot of things.
    I like it when the screenwriters give a nod to some smaller details or obscure items that only a comic reader would know. Even something as simple as dropping a name or a quick reference to something, it shows that they are keeping the comic book fans in mind when developing their screenplays and I appreciate that.
    Some of us have been waiting thirty years or longer to see things like Spider-Man on the big screen done really well, and in many ways, it has been worth the wait.
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    As far as Arrow is concerned, I am wondering if they will touch on the 'sidekick/ward turns into a junkie ' concept from the comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalLegion View Post
    Second, there was no reason to change up the ending. .
    Do you think the ending of Fight Club needed to be changed? Now, Alan Moore was going to hate Watchmen no matter what it was on film. He's just one of those hater geniuses who uses his haterness to do amazing things. He hates all comic movies though, regardless, and seems to hate every person who ever liked one. That's just Alan Moore.

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    Now that I see the movie, especially when I sat down with Jim Uhls and record a commentary track for the DVD, I was sort of embarrassed of the book, because the movie had streamlined the plot and made it so much more effective and made connections that I had never thought to make.
    But Palahniuk seems to understand that film is different, and seems to think the "more heroic" ending of the movie worked better for a movie than the "insane guy talking to God in an asylum" would have.

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    I want a Superman: Red Son adaptation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarzis View Post
    I want a Superman: Red Son adaptation.
    That would be awesome.
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    I want a Kingdom Come Adaptation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrapper View Post
    The movie ending was better, and made more sense.
    I wouldn't qualify the movie ending as better; maybe cheaper in the effects department but not better. What about it made more sense than the way the comic series ended?

    Jon's assistance was merely condensing Lori's subplot. There was too much material to cover in a feature-film, and I commend Snyder for knowing exactly which elements would make for the best movie. Not every character got fully developed, but I knew going in that there was never going to be enough time for it, so I was OK with it.
    That's just it, though...it didn't condense Lori's subplot; rather, it ruined the integrity of her subplot and robbed Lori of an important moment. Sure, there was really no way for Snyder to fully explore every character-we would have had a four hour movie-but that particular scene didn't require such a drastic change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagon Akujin View Post
    Do you think the ending of Fight Club needed to be changed? Now, Alan Moore was going to hate Watchmen no matter what it was on film. He's just one of those hater geniuses who uses his haterness to do amazing things. He hates all comic movies though, regardless, and seems to hate every person who ever liked one. That's just Alan Moore.
    First off, I can't say whether or not the ending to 'Fight Club' should have been changed as I haven't read the novel. Second, what does Alan Moore's opinion have to do with mine? Yes, it's true he pretty much hates seeing his comics turned into films and never has a nice thing to say about them. That, however, has nothing to do with my opinion of 'Watchmen'. As I sad previously, aside from the two complaints I have, I thought 'Watchmen' was brilliant.




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