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    Papa John Gorman 9th degree?

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    Was looking at vandry jiu jitsu Austin site and it listed papa John Gorman as a 9th degree master under Carlos Gracie. I've learned to ignore the flood of people calming they got their black belt from Carlos Gracie after hello died and could no longer call them out, but this takes the cake. That he got a black belt from Carlinos in Less than four years is an indictment of the Carlinos belt system. But to find a site that claims he is one a 9th degree grand master a meager 6 years later is a slap in the face to every belt holder in jiu jitsu. Could some tell me the source for vandry's jiu jitsu Belt holder list. For reference you will find the list under vandry's bio
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    Is this what you are talking about:

    http://www.austinbjj.com/node/21
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    Yep that's it. Been doing some research and vandry's site has come up before for claims about his world champion status. Is this a vandry problem or is papa John actuallly claiming this now
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    11/22/2013 1:28pm


     Style: Brazillian Jiu Jitsu

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    He doesn't appear on GB's black belt database anymore (assuming he did re: the other thread I posted)

    http://graciebarra.com/gb-associatio...elts-database/
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    11/22/2013 1:35pm


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    Here's his bio on the USA Jiu Jitsu website (he is apparently the commissioner of USAJJ). He has 2 stripes on his black belt in the photo.

    http://www.usajj.com/members/usajiuj...hn-gorman.html
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    11/22/2013 1:57pm


     Style: Brazillian Jiu Jitsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by cualltaigh View Post
    Is this what you are talking about:

    http://www.austinbjj.com/node/21
    I can't find him listed as a 9th degree anywhere except on the list you linked to. I wonder where they got it? Possibly a mistake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cualltaigh View Post
    Is this what you are talking about:

    http://www.austinbjj.com/node/21
    I can't find him listed as a 9th degree anywhere except on the list you linked to. I wonder where they got it? Possibly a mistake?

    He's pretty clearly a legit black belt, I think that list is a mistake.

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