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  1. Sovvolf is online now

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    Cobra Kai or Mr. Miyagi

    I was sat in the living room the other night, watching Karate Kid with my fiancee, eating junk and chilling out. The movie came to the scene where you're inside the Cobra Kai gym and watching them train.

    For a moment it kind of hit me, while this movie seems to be building Creasey up as the bad guy and is trying to show off his gym and training as being very brutal and very strict. I thought to myself, you know what... He's actually a pretty good teacher aside from the being nuts part.

    The training is hard and brutal (which it kind of should be) and he heavily promotes pragmatism and hard full contact sparring. He doesn't mess around with all the wax on wax off crap. He has his students train hard, spar hard and I can totally see why his students win often at competitions.

    All I'm saying is, if I was training to toughen up and learn how to fight, this is the gym I'd want to go to as opposed to Miyagis really unorthodox ways of training.

    I'm not sure if this is something that's been done before but I'd like to hear your thoughts and who would you prefer to be taught by.
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    Well let be honest int real world the Mr. Miyagi method isn't all that effective.
    Heck I am not to sure if it really works all that well in the movie world either.
    Daniel really did get his ass kicked at the tournament. He won but he got his ass kicked.
    Then the went on to make 2 other movies where he basically gets his ass kicked some more.
    All that being said though Mr. Miyagi is a pretty fucking cool dude. I think I would actually rather train with him seeing how I could totally use a surrogate father.
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    Hmm, do I wanna paint fences and do kata with a flaky Japanese man, or do I want stupidly rough and antagonistic training from a spazzy blonde guy and his coterie of guffawing nimrods?

    Is it too late to sign up to be The Jiu-Jitsu Kid or something instead? Hell, I'd settle for The Judo Kid. Aikido Kid would be pushing it.
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    On the other hand the Cobra Kai guy sucked so bad that the Crane Kick actually worked on him so their is always that to consider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadzu View Post
    Hmm, do I wanna paint fences and do kata with a flaky Japanese man, or do I want stupidly rough and antagonistic training from a spazzy blonde guy and his coterie of guffawing nimrods?

    Is it too late to sign up to be The Jiu-Jitsu Kid or something instead? Hell, I'd settle for The Judo Kid. Aikido Kid would be pushing it.
    No but if you're looking for a third option, we do have Wing Chun kid set right up as an alternative in situations like this...
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    Wounded Ronin started a thread about this like 10 years ago:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22147
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    On the other hand the Cobra Kai guy sucked so bad that the Crane Kick actually worked on him so their is always that to consider
    He also lost to a dude with a few months training tops, who also had a broken leg... No wonder Creasey was pissed at the end.

    However, put into reality, Daniel San would have been lucky to get out of the first fight, if he was even allowed to compete in the first place...

    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    Wounded Ronin started a thread about this like 10 years ago:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22147
    Looks like I'm fairly late to the punch. Still, with maybe fresh faces and fresh minds it would be an interesting threat to see what we all now think on the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovvolf View Post
    No but if you're looking for a third option, we do have Wing Chun kid set right up as an alternative in situations like this...
    Sort of like this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    Sort of like this?


    Yes only now you're training with this guy instead of Jackie Chan

    https://youtu.be/9_3F6Zwbp9E

    or this guy

    https://youtu.be/4xnXKLhLje4
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    I actually am going to have to pick this guy


    although this guy here comes a very close 2nd

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