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  1. The Cap is online now
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    ORNYTHORINQUE!... BOIT-SANS-SOIF!... BACHI-BOUZOUK!

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    I'm not finding Those rank claims on his website right now, but the google-cached version of his bio page shows that he's added the line "copy of rank certification(s): please ask if needed" sometime since November 9th.

    Here a link to a page where those ranks can still be found, along with a claim to hold a "doctor of philosophy in martial arts and defense tactics" from West Coast University. I have a screenshot of the page in case anything changes there.
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    This West Coast University is apparently a Panama based distance learning university that offers doctorates in martial arts alongside programs like hypnotherapy and christian leadership. Its credibility has been called into question in many places, including its home country of Panama where it currently has no accreditation whatsoever.


    From the "Oregon List" of unaccredited colleges:
    This name is used by multiple unaccredited entities. The extent to which they are related is unknown. All outside the U.S. are considered degree mills because they lack appropriate governmental authority to issue degrees. Not the same as the accredited Health Sciences school by the same name in California.
    Hosted on the Internet Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/201105250...ccredited.aspx


    Not something a discerning academic would want to be associated with in any way.
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    Well you can't even see his rank certifications on his website now. All it lists is this:
    "COPY OF RANK CERTIFICATION(s): Please ask if needed."

    From the link that The Cap provided, Yoder states that he started training when he was 8 and that it's been 34 years now, so I gather he's somewhere between 42-43. 57 ranks in 34 years? One of his ranks is '2nd Dan Koga Ryu Ninjitsu'...but there's no legitimate school left that teaches the Koga lineage, right? And a '9th Dan Ninjitsu? Who's ninjitsu? And what the hell is a '10th Dan in Police Methods'? This has got bullshido all over it.

    Anyways, I've contacted the site and said it looks interesting but I wanted to know a little more about Mr. Yoder, specifically what martial arts he is ranked in and who/what body of authority issued the ranks. It'll be interesting to see what kind of a reply is sent to me.
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    Check this out. Apparently, someone did an interview with Yoder. Notice that when he lists his ranks and certifications that he says "Below most ranks have been earned, others have been given honorary, and others cross-ranked." Unfortunately, he doesn't identify which ranks are which.

    http://truwazama.weebly.com/soke-bob-yoder.html
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    I got a reply form Bob Yoder this morning. I was surprised that he responded so quickly. If anyone is still interested, I can post the text of the e-mail here. Apparently, of his 57 certifications, he was awarded a fuckton of them this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalLegion View Post
    I got a reply form Bob Yoder this morning. I was surprised that he responded so quickly. If anyone is still interested, I can post the text of the e-mail here. Apparently, of his 57 certifications, he was awarded a fuckton of them this year.
    But of course we're still interested. Fodder for the hounds of Bullshido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Pepper View Post
    But of course we're still interested. Fodder for the hounds of Bullshido.
    You got it. Sorry it's so jumbled but apparently the guy doesn't know how to paragraph. This is the e-mail he sent me in it's entirety (I'm gonna use the 'Quote" function his text so as to separate it from mine):

    So that you can know me a little better I'm including below an article that I recently wrote for a military martial arts website and was also published by an international combat martial arts website in their who is who section. I'm including it because it also acts as an in-depth bio.

    Recent Article:

    I recently came across your website. Let me congratulate you on such a fine site. The military and martial arts have been a great part of my life. I stated studying the martial arts when I was 8 years old in 1979 and served in the United States Air Force for 12 years from 1996 to 2008. I enlisted as a Security Police Member a.k.a Security Forces. While serving I deployed numerous times and in 2001 was called to active duty. While on active duty I was awarded THE AIR FORCE COMMENDATION MEDAL for OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT 11 September 2001 to 15 September 2003 as a Security Forces Member with the 121st Security Forces Squadron, 121st Air Refueling Wing, Rickenbacker International Airport, Columbus, Ohio. During this period, my outstanding professionalism and leadership directly contributed to the effectiveness and success of Air Force missions supporting Operation NOBLE EAGLE, Operation ENDURING FREEDOM and Operation FUNDAMENTAL JUSTICE. I deployed in support of the 89th Security Forces at Andrews Air Force Base and served as part of an enhanced homeland security operation. I supervised the increased force protection and anti-terrorism measures essential in the protection of assets vital to our nations war fighting capability. In addition, I served as member of a Quick Reaction Team dedicated to the strategic airlift of dangerous Al-Qaeda and Taliban Detainees from the Afghanistan combat zone to the internment facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. My continued commitment to excellence during this wartime activation set the standard for my fellow Non-Commissioned Officers to follow. My distinctive accomplishments reflected great credit upon myself, the Air National Guard and the United States Air Force. I was also awarded the ARMY ACHIEVEMENT MEDAL for my OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENTS and service from 14 January 2002 to 30 September 2002 as a member of the Force Protection Task Force assigned following the terrorist attacks on America, myself, the Ohio National Guard and the United States Armed Services. In addition I received a Certificate of Achievement for my attention to detail and professional conduct during the September 10, 2004 security detail attached to Air Force One. During that time period, homeland security levels were elevated and my actions directly resulted in a higher level of security for the Commander in Chief, George W. Bush. I also received a Certificate of Achievement recognizing me for my attention to detail and professional conduct during the September 8, 2006 security detail attached to the Ohio-Serbia Partnership. During that time period, homeland security levels were elevated and my actions directly resulted in a higher level of security for President Tadic of Serbia. I held the rank of TSgt E-6 when I existed the military in 2008. I'm still a member in good standing of the 121st Security Forces Alumni Association.

    As for my martial arts achievements well as I stated I started studying the martial arts when I was 7 years old so it has been 34 years now. My uncles studied martial arts and got me interested. I began studying with them every chance I could. I also studied with a man who lived down the street from us. He taught Shotokan Karate to a few of us neighborhood kids in his backyard during the summer. I studied with him only one summer but it gave me the basics of that art. I went on to study Tae Kwon Do at the Oriental Martial Arts College under Sr. Grand Master Joon P. Choi for a year but I felt that it was geared more towards competition and not actual street fighting. I also trained with Master S.S. Kim during that time in Korean Praying Mantis Kung Fu. I then went on to studying at Jay T. Will's Kenpo Karate Studio as my uncle had studied there as well. I studied there until Jay T. Will was arrested for drug possession in 1985. I continued to study with my uncle and the following year earned my black belt in Kenpo Karate. I then went onto study Kung Fu and Kickboxing under Greg Greene who trained under Grandmaster R.A. Greenlee in Shaolin Iron Tiger Kung Fu. Mr. Greene had earned his Black Sash under Grandmaster Greenlee and developed his own style of Kung Fu. It was a realistic street fighting art. I liked it very much it is also where I got my creativity from. Well there and of course from Bruce Lee. I'm a very big fan of Bruce Lee and even attended Bruce Lee Eve each year. I even got to meet Larry Hartsell one year. Almost every year from 1983 until 2000, Robert Blakeman, one of the world's best known Bruce Lee memorabilia collectors, held an annual Bruce Lee tribute event called, Bruce Lee Eve. Robert Blakeman was a friend of mine and I still have original editions of The Associates of Bruce Lee Eve newsletters, produced by Robert Blakeman and Darin Waugh. The newsletters included many exclusive pictures and interviews from Bruce Lee friends and students. Robert Blakeman passed away and Sr. Grand Master Joon P. Choi now has the collection. Anyways I earned my Black Sash under Mr. Greene and even studied under one of his Iron Shadows Bill White when he opened his academy down the street from my home. Mr. White's academy unfortunately did not operate for very long. After that I kept studying on my own with family and friends. One friend of mine from high school was Sok P. Long he was Cambodian I would practice with him in Bokator and Pradal Serey. After high school he moved back to Cambodia. During high school I began teaching some friends and even some of their parents in my garage and basement. In 1989 I entered into the Army as a MP but was later discharged due to damage to my knees. I immediately began strength training to build up the muscle around my knees. In 1992 I developed Tai Shu Do "The Way of Ultimate Techniques" and in 1993 I officially opened Bob Yoder's Kung Fu Academy. I operated the academy for a few years and then went into the Air Force in 1996 as a SP. Again we learned basic hand to hand combat but also some Aikijutsu in Tech School at the Joint Law Enforcement Academy located at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, Texas. I graduated from Tech School in 1997 and was stationed in the Air National Guard at Rickenbacker ANGB. While there I participated in numerous deployments a few are listed above. I worked in Corrections as a civilian and was a state certified unarmed self defense instructor who taught both state and county corrections personal. My instructors were Rick Seeds Head Insructor, Dan Pfeifer, Mark Feison, Pam Means, Darrell Logan, and Mike Pierce. I was called to active duty on 9/11/2001 to 9/11/2003. During that time I was a member of a Joint Anti Terrorism Task Force and Quick Reaction Team member tasked to conduct Detainee Ops in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay Cuba. I continued to conduct missions on a volunteer basis until 2007. I have also provided security for Air Force One and President George W. Bush as well as President Tadic from Serbia. I was also a state security officer for the Ohio adjutant general from 2003-2008. In 2008 I was diagnosed with PTSD and during this time we lost our home and had to move to Circleville, Ohio. We moved back to Grove City, Ohio in 2010 and my wife found me upstairs in our bedroom on the bed with what she thought was chewing tobacco beside my mouth. It turned out to be blood and she immediately rushed me to the emergency room. I then had to be put into a medically induced coma because I aspirated throwing up tons of blood that had been dripping from a erosion in my esophagus. I was in the coma for over 3 months and when I came to I was being kept alive with machines. I had to learn to breath or my own, talk and walk again. I thought that I would never practice martial arts again but I never gave up and recovered fairly quickly. I thank god for my quick and full recover. In 2011 I reopened the academy in the basement of my Grove City home and have been teaching ever since. I'm also currently studying Chen Style Taijiquan under Jeff Radcliff on the weekends. I also attend martial arts seminars when I can afford it and have the time. This year I was awarded 10th Dan Black Belt in Police Methods from Grandmaster Soke Dr. Victor Walter Huapaya Quispe, 10th Dan Ronin Ryu Ninjutsu from FMACE Shihan Board Ninjutsu, 10th Dan Black Belt Wakazamuria Kokusai Budo from Soke Sefik Gülten, 10th Dan Combat Karate from Dai Soke Prof/Dr. Jagdish Singh Khatri, 9th Dan Bhat Ninjutsu/Karate from Grandmaster Niranjan C. Bhat, 10th Dan Combat Jujitsu, 9th Dan Combat Goju Karate Do, 9th Dan Ninjutsu, 8th Degree Black Belt in Shioku Waza, Freestyle Karate, American Modern JuJitsu, American Modern Aikido, 5th Dan Hapkido, 2nd Degree Black Belt Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Jeet Kune Do Senior Instructor, and Certified Knife Instructor from Master Israel Velez III. 8th Dan Black Belt Gojitsu Ryu from Grandmaster Soke Dr. Victor Walter Huapaya Quispe, 6th Dan Black Belt in Scientific Tad Sun Pok Hybrid System from Grand Master Arnel C. Ariap, 5th Dan Black Belt Hapki-Do from Shihan José Augusto da Silva Costa, and Expert/Teacher Warrior Self Defense System from Dariusz Gurgul. 5th Dan Dragon Kenpo Karate, Shifu Shaolin-Wutang Kung Fu Internal Power Systems, Master Instructor Military CQC System, Senior Instructor Jeet Kune Do, Senior Instructor Offensive Fighting Tactics, Senior Instructor Kali Silat, Senior Instructor Combat Silat, Karambit Instrutor from Sifu Jason m. Velez,5th Dan Shinka Ryu Ninjutsu From the Real League of Shadows, 5th Dan Black Belt Ninpo-Do from the Ninpo-Do International Association, 4th Dan Black Belt American Kenpo Karate, 4th Dan Shaolin Twin Dragons Kenpo Jiu-Jitsu, 4th Dan Black Belt Valadez Kenpo-Ryu, 4th Dan Guardian Kempo JuJitsu "Old Style", 4th Dan Tactical Combat Kajukenbo, 4th Dan Tai Sheng Men Kung Fu, 4th Dan Black Sash Praying Mantis Kung Fu, 3rd Dan Shaolin Dragon Kung Fu, 3rd Dan Tae Kwon Do, 3rd Dan Krav Maga, 3rd Dan Black Sash Choy Lay Fut, 2nd Dan Black Belt Keha Karate-Do, 2nd Dan Black Belt Koga Ryu Ninjutsu, 1st Dan Black Belt Aikijitsu, 1st Dan Zen Sekei Goshin Jitsu, 1st Dan Black Belt Hwa Rang Do, 1st Dan Black Sash Shaolin Chuan Fa, 1st Dan Black Sash Kan Balam Kung Fu, 1st Dan Black Sash Decuerdas Eskrima, Senior Jeet Kune Do Concepts, Wing Chun Red Sash Full Instructor, Master Level Filipino Boxing, Master Instructor Chin Na, Instructor Dim Mak, Instructor Kun Tao, Instructor Muay Thai, Instructor Kyusho-Jitsu, Instructor Law Enforcement Combative Tactics, Instructor Tactical Stick, Knife, and Gun from Grandmaster Lawrence Valadez and the VKA. 2nd Dan Brazilian Jiu Jitsu from the Brotherhood of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Board of Directors, 2nd Dan Black Belt Yoshin Ryu Combat JuJitsu from Sensei Michael Carmiche. Awarded my Doctor of Philosophy in Martial Arts & Defense Tactics Education from West Coast University April 10, 2013. The Golden Dragon Dojo of Fusho-Satori-Ryu Advanced Bob Yoder to the title of... O'Sensei and offered the named as a Affiliate Instructor and Charter School of... The Golden Dragon Dojo by Shodai Soke Bruce Calkins on the 13th of May 2013. Most recently featured in The Martial Arts World Book Volume 4 and awarded the Humanitarian Award from the American Combined Arts Federation / Code Red Unarmed Combat & Self Defense Training International. Awarded the Counter Terror Tactics Association of Science from the Urban Tactical Operations Association Accredited by the American Modern Jujitsu Federation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalLegion View Post
    You got it. Sorry it's so jumbled but apparently the guy doesn't know how to paragraph. This is the e-mail he sent me in it's entirety (I'm gonna use the 'Quote" function his text so as to separate it from mine):
    Hey, could you forward that e-mail to me at owlmatt@gmail.com, so that we have more than copypasta?
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    As a side note, a quick look over Facebook indicates that a LOT of people got this e-mail. This guy is spamming hard.
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