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    Quote Originally Posted by Keslet View Post
    This is very similar to my experience, though I had a fairly significant back injury that has stuck with me. If I don't do my exercises regularly (from a physical therapist) I'm more at risk to tweak it...chiro for me helps speed up recovery when it's pretty aggravated. My regular doc would just do muscle relaxants and rest, so it would take forever!

    My guy is pretty good at sticking to what he does best (musculoskeletal issues), but I've seen plenty that go off the tracks to run up revenue...LOTS of worthless "therapies", selling dietary supplements, claiming to treat everything under the sun (including neurological disorders, adjusting infants, etc.), and so on. It's definitely a looser profession than other medical types I've encountered, IMO.

    Does your chiro do anything different from what your therapist's exercises were doing? In other words, is the chiro basically putting your body through the same or similar movements that your exercises would have done?
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    I don't treat infants personally as I have zero interest in the technique involved and I wish to avoid the controversy you describe above, but the Clinic I am employed in treats large numbers of infants, often with very good results when everything else has failed to make a fussy child stop crying constantly. Many infants are referred to us from infant care nurses and several Clinics in the area have a good reputation with that profession.

    This is not due to any mystical flow of energy. It is simply due to the fact that being born is a very hard thing to do and children may enter life with neck pain, which doctors or nurses will be clueless how to diagnose as it is simply not part of their training and the child cannot communicate the nature of its distress. Often, the infant patients visiting chiropractors have tried everything else, medications, food changes and more, with no effect due to the problem being mechanical, not organic.

    Chiropractors treat these sore and stiff joints (which present very differently in babies than in adults, by the way) using extremely gentle techniques without any kind of quick thrusts as you would treat an adult. Infant joints have no resistance, it is not really needed.

    I agree that there is a vast potential for exploiting worried parents if you're of an unscrupulous nature, but I've no doubt that paediatric chiropractic has value, even though I do not practise it myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CapnMunchh View Post
    Does your chiro do anything different from what your therapist's exercises were doing? In other words, is the chiro basically putting your body through the same or similar movements that your exercises would have done?
    Hmmm ...I think its different, though I suppose he could be manipulating my spine in the same range of motion type movement...

    The way it feels to me is that I have some vulnerable areas on my back (an old injury and some arthritis) that can cause me trouble...typically in these areas, I'll move or lift something wrong, and next thing I know it's all locked up, range of motion is limited, and I have 'nerve' type pain (sometimes shooting up into neck, down arms, etc.). The exercises help strengthen my supporting muscles in those areas, so I'm less likely to get out of whack...if I do get tweaked, though, the adjustments sort of 'unlock' the spine near a spasm, and they seem to take the pressure off the nerve in that area. Much less (or eliminated) referred pain, muscles relax so better range of motion, and so on. When I haven't done chiropractic care those symptoms can last for many days, but my current chiro can shut them down in just a visit or two without meds.

    So, I look at the two disciplines as complementary. One helps protect, and one helps to address acute symptoms and recover faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keslet View Post
    So, I look at the two disciplines as complementary. One helps protect, and one helps to address acute symptoms and recover faster.
    Dingdingding winnar!
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    Dingdingding winnar!
    OK, Ok -- as long as you stay away from homeopathic medicine too.
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    I have occasionally gone to a particular chiropractor, who has a good word-of-mouth reputation among martial artists in town.

    Working my back? Kind of ephemeral in terms of benefit.

    However, I had a sifu who was a little bastard, and fucked up my wrist with a jointlock. One of the bones in my wrist (the lunate, for the pedants among you) was actually tilted up - you could see it poking up against the skin. Took the chiropractor all of 45 seconds to pop it back into place, with instant relief.

    For applications like that, worked like a charm. When they start talking about it curing asthma? Cue the Twilight Zone theme music.
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    When they start talking about it curing asthma? Cue the Twilight Zone theme music.
    A chiro won't cure your asthma until he's taken enough supplementary X-rays to turn you into a walking, glowing tumor.

    By then, the asthma won't be much of an issue.
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    A chiro won't cure your asthma until he's taken enough supplementary X-rays to turn you into a walking, glowing tumor.

    By then, the asthma won't be much of an issue.
    They let'em use x-ray machines!!!???
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    They let'em use x-ray machines!!!???
    Yeah, I've seen X-ray machines in chiropractor offices...which is odd because many actual MD's will send those off to specialists to interpret. I have no idea how much training a chiropractor gets in the use and interpretation of X-rays (Shawarma?). I've also seen all manner of electrical stimulation devices, cold laser treatment, and other therapies that it would seem would need some level of training or expertise to use correctly...
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    I had a couple of years training in using and diagnosing X-rays. Nowhere near as intensive as what radiographers get, but it gets the job done for the purpose I use them for and easily on level with what local doctors get. I use them to determine the effects of old trauma, degree of arthritic degeneration and possible structural defects which might have an impact on my treatment plan and the patient's prognosis. I would not X-ray an asthma patient. There would be Little point. You can't see it on X-rays and I can't treat it, although I can treat rib dysfunctions brought on by asthmatic attacks.

    I see something on an X-ray I do not like and suspect to be pathological, I ask the nice radiographer Down the road for a second opinion. Sent a lady Down there with a possible undiagnosed lung tumour the other day, her lung looked scary to me.

    To be honest, I do use laser therapy but I'm not officially trained in it, I just had my colleagues train me. It's actually surprisingly helpful for inflammatory tendon injuries, but it doesn't excite me to use that much and I'm not really that good at it either.

    Other tools commonly found in chiropractic practices are ultrasound machines for diagnosing soft tissue injuries (saves a million years around here - get your chiropractor to US your possible rotator cuff tear instead of waiting for an MRI or US referral from your doctor), TENS machines treating muscle tone with electricity (doesn't Work for me, weak evidence supporting it) and therapeutic ultrasound (never used it much, prefer to just touch people.) Many chiropractors also use dry needling, which is what western Medical folk call accupuncture in order to feel less embarrassed about it, only less sorcerous.

    I do not practice homeopathy. I'm not a practitioner of alternative medicine.
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