Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist View Post
sort of a catch-22, not enough people are into judo, which leads to a lack of appropriate matches at shiai, which makes judo less appealing for those who are starting out, which leads to fewer people staying with judo.

we can only hope that with some judoka doing well in MMA we may see more interest.
And a lot of people into Judo (kids) are not into competition, plus new (and appropriate) restrictions on age and rank for real competition are in place (in Canada, at least). It's even harder (as I'm sure you know) to find working age novice adults to compete against, even do Judo with...plus travel expenses to competitions, which are not the common in the first place.