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    Talhoffer's bizarre "man vs. woman" duel on video



    It had to happen eventually ... here's some interpretation and playful experimentation based on Hans Talhoffer's very peculiar "man vs. woman" duel scenario, in which the man is armed with a club and stands waist-deep in a pit, while the woman can move freely at ground level and is armed with a rock in a sock.

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    Looks like they had fun. :)

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    As soon as I saw that in a book, I wondered if the WMA reconstructers would pick it up.

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    And it's only one variation. Though a few years old, this article on female warriorship mentions the same duel performed with swords, a circle surrounding the pit which the woman could not cross.

    http://www.florilegium.org/?http%3A/...riors-art.html

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    Well I'm hard.
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    During the Roman Empire, women fought in the public arenas, both as free women and as slaves. They competed in the opening of the Coliseum in AD 80. According to Juvenal, it became fashionable for women of the nobility to train and fight in the arenas...
    How is this not a movie?
    "Your body must be like a stone, your mind... like a meatloaf."

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    Why is it so goddamn hard to find a video of it? I've seen videos I'm pretty sure are alien spacecraft. But still no good Krav.

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    Talhoffer is a disputed thing, where I used to train they didn't regard Talhoffer highly.

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    What was disputed about him? Was there something in particular that was disreputable about the guy?

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    I know some people refer to him as Trollhoffer. I only really do Fiore longsword though so I'm not qualified to judge. His stuff certainly looks a bit off the wall.

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    I didn't study medieval fencing books, so I can only repeat what I have heard, but the techniques talhoffer described were regarded at often ineffective or even complete BS.

    The group I had the pleasure to train with is Dreynschlag in Vienna, Austria. I don't know exactly what the history of each member is, but they reconstruct the techniques since the late 90's and one guy is an ex-boxer and another was active in MMA at the time.

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