9/19/2013 3:34pm, #31
9/19/2013 3:37pm, #32Falling for Judo since 1980
"You are wrong. Why? Because you move like a pregnant yak and talk like a spazzing 'I train UFC' noob." -DCS
9/20/2013 7:29am, #33
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9/20/2013 7:33am, #34
9/20/2013 11:23am, #35
9/20/2013 11:55am, #36
Anyhow, back on topic, i found this interesting:
In considering the volume of contemporary literature on fructose, 1 conclusion stands clear: fructose is safe at typical intake levels but can produce adverse metabolic effects when abused—as is true of most nutrients. It turns out that the largest abusers of fructose are not American consumers, but research scientists. [...] It is only when researchers hyperdose human and animal subjects with fructose in amounts that exceed the 95th percentile by 1.5- to 3- and 4- to 5-fold, respectively, that adverse effects are provoked.
9/21/2013 6:06pm, #37
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9/22/2013 8:31am, #38
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There is a strong hereditary part to developing diabetes, however, we can't overlook the cynical manipulations big food corporates do, to make us buy more of their products. Just because of that i think there should be limitations on the amount of sugar inside all food products. If you want something extra sweet, go and cook\make it yourself.
Just look at the changes in McDonald's menu over the years. It used to be fucking delicious, now after all the anti in the media they got, it isn't such an insane option for a junk food meal anymore, and you can choose a salad and chicken burger and ****.
Though, the taste isn't as good anymore :D
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9/24/2013 6:50am, #39
Blaming sugar for fatness is intellectually identical to blaming a firearm for a murder. Very un-Phrost-like!
Furthermore, simple carbohydrates have been sought after for their energy-density since the advent of agriculture for obvious reasons. If your tribe has access to 50% more calories than the other tribe, your tribe is gonna be bigger and stronger.
Sugar is not poisonous, nor is it all that bad for you when (like any other nutrient) it is used in the correct dosage. Of course, modern first-world societies have pretty much forgotten how to do that, but the problem isn't the sugar. It's a genetic proclivity to desire energy-dense food-sources. For the first 50,000 years of human development, this has been the rule. Now that it's killing us we have to re-wire all those biological imperatives.
Or, you know, show some freaking willpower...And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".
--Scrolls of Bujutsu: Chapter 5 vs 10-14.
9/26/2013 12:19pm, #40
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Parenting should be by license, some parents interested only in themselves fail to teach their children proper nutrition. Check out the Gracie Diet.
The OP may have overstated 'Poison' however, after 10 years selling Coca Cola products and consuming the equivalent of what 10 people in a lifetime it has taken me over 23 years to get rid of the effect, almost.
Diabetes aside, lets add this one with this gene Interleuken-1
that points to periodontal problems (diabetes and heart are related, and my disclaimer is that correlation is not necessarily indicative of causation in this case, not enough science) this OP may be one of the best posts for us to really sink our teeth into, and with evolving wellness care issues, those WITH this gene, should not even touch any sugar, except through fruits (see your doctor) etc.
As we cut back on sugar voluntarily, I am against any government involvement save educative type approaches, (and good luck with this as the Sugar Cartel is not to be trifled with)
the industries that wish to do well in the future will have to redirect their marketing strategies more and more to non-sugar type products if they wish to profit. Great OP Phrost.