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  1. silvernight is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/13/2013 3:59am


     Style: FCS,Inosanto/Lacoste Kali

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    This could be a crazy vs crazy situation. I've heard a few stories of Grand Tuhon and his eccentricities. Especially watching his personal flame wars on fmatalk a while back. We will probably not really know the full gist of things.
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    12/14/2013 1:20pm


     Style: Pekiti, ARMA, other stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvernight View Post
    This could be a crazy vs crazy situation. I've heard a few stories of Grand Tuhon and his eccentricities. Especially watching his personal flame wars on fmatalk a while back. We will probably not really know the full gist of things.
    I haven't really talked with all the people recently, but I'm inclined to believe it's less the personality conflict of Tim vs Gaje, and more Tim vs everyone who's closer to his rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jspeedy View Post
    This announcement seems a little ridiculous and politics ridden, I'm not affiliated with ptk but I've seen several Facebook posts supporting tuhon wade. I'm curious of there is any demonstratable evidence in support of these accusations.
    Check his interactions on FMA talk or FMA forum if you are interested, and if they have not deleted the threads entirely. I have seen him, and instructors certified by him, going after several people in the FMA community, to include PTK people from different organizations. He was widely known for claiming to have the only "authentic" PTK, despite many others in his home state, who are also direct students of Gaje, still are trained and certified by him, etc (see the Texas Kali Association for examples).

    My understanding is that Gaje wanted all the different legitimate organizations (Texas Kali, PTK Tactical, etc.) under one umbrella (PTK Alliance) and Waid was severely hampering that effort due to the manner of his actions with others in the PTK world, and the larger FMA world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey Badger View Post
    I can't help but think that Tuhon Bill McGrath is somewhere chuckling softly to himself and saying "If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you."
    A bit of a different situation, since my understanding from speaking with Tuhon McGrath is that he left Gaje, rather than the other way around.
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    3/02/2014 8:19pm


     Style: Pekiti, ARMA, other stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwinch2 View Post
    Check his interactions on FMA talk or FMA forum if you are interested, and if they have not deleted the threads entirely. I have seen him, and instructors certified by him, going after several people in the FMA community, to include PTK people from different organizations. He was widely known for claiming to have the only "authentic" PTK, despite many others in his home state, who are also direct students of Gaje, still are trained and certified by him, etc (see the Texas Kali Association for examples).

    My understanding is that Gaje wanted all the different legitimate organizations (Texas Kali, PTK Tactical, etc.) under one umbrella (PTK Alliance) and Waid was severely hampering that effort due to the manner of his actions with others in the PTK world, and the larger FMA world.
    This sounds basically accurate to me
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