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  1. goodlun is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keslet View Post
    God I wish I'd just used something other than IT as an example...one throwaway line and it was an anchor around my neck for 50 posts...
    Wow you really don't get it, any example would have sunk you. You made the choice to make a direct comparison, guess what is going to happen other people are going to comment on that comparison. It has nothing to do with IT.
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    God I wish I'd just used something other than IT as an example...one throwaway line and it was an anchor around my neck for 50 posts...
    In those situations, I like to concede that I made a bad example instead of defending it to the end. Really saves on the 1s and 0s.
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    You know, I find when arguing with a pedant...


    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Normand View Post
    ...that you should be using your time productively?
    If I had to pick one piece of true wisdom to take away from this experience, it would likely be this.

    Well, this and a growing appreciation of the poet that is ChenPengFi. His words, they paint a picture...
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    Lol you missed the best part, the IT derail/Tangent/Tantrum that he invited by trying to make a detailed argument but I get to take ownership of it.
    That's the first thing I saw when he accused YOU of being "all over the place." That IT post contains the logical fallacies I was talking about much earlier. Then I realized:
    Quote Originally Posted by Keslet View Post
    God I wish I'd just used something other than IT as an example...one throwaway line and it was an anchor around my neck for 50 posts...
    He'd just excuse it away and blame you or me for his our mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    In those situations, I like to concede that I made a bad example instead of defending it to the end. Really saves on the 1s and 0s.
    Yeah, I tried...more than once I tried to switch that out...I even said "IT controls the Spice, so controls the Universe". Who doesn't love a Dune reference?

    Finally just stopped responding to anything related to IT and things did drift back around to the "original" topic eventually...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keslet View Post
    Well, this and a growing appreciation of the poet that is ChenPengFi. His words, they paint a picture...

    Yes they do, it looks something like this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    Wow you really don't get it, any example would have sunk you. You made the choice to make a direct comparison, guess what is going to happen other people are going to comment on that comparison. It has nothing to do with IT.
    Well, of course I get it, but here's the problem...what we were talking about was the idea of a persons value to society being fairly represented by their annual income. Well, occupation has a really significant impact on annual income, right? So that opens up an examination of the societal value of occupations. Yeah, it's touchy, but its intellectually honest to go there. Actually it's kinda hard to avoid it, IMO. So I thought I would try some kind of 'high-risk/low-reward' (firemen, who hates firemen?) to 'low-risk/high-reward' (unfortunately I pulled IT out of my hat) comparison.

    Then things went south.
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    Yes they do, it looks something like this:

    Well it certainly is concise...
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    He'd just excuse it away and blame you or me for his our mistakes.
    Nah, I appreciate that Goodlun is making a real effort to discuss his viewpoint.

    I probably would blame you though...
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    Nah, I appreciate that Goodlun is making a real effort to discuss his viewpoint.
    Your previous posts make this a lie.
    I probably would blame you though...
    Which utterly contradicts your claim of admitting your mistakes and appreciating a real effort..

    Quote Originally Posted by Keslet View Post
    @Goodlun - Dude, I didn't even read it past the first couple sentences.
    You appreciate his effort by not reading his posts. LOL.

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