8/19/2013 11:49pm, #11
I face the direction of their back and snick out at their leg. Now to regain balance they generally have to walk backwards when they do I walk forwards un balancing them. At which point we are both just walking.
I have pulled big guys out of clubs like this. It is really high percentage. But as a sensitive new age guard I am really trying to avoid neck restraints.
Try not to make the guy unconsious before he is out the door.
8/20/2013 12:05am, #12
some of my weird third man in stuff. This is difficult if you have two guys fighting those arm locks on and you want to help but dont want to spoil what they are doing or stuff any momentum they have going.
I have had success with what I will call the bum rush but it is modified. Nowdays I take their back, waist grab and drive into their back with my head or chin. It feels a bit gooberesk but it has a small profile so it sneaks into a group of guys without too much disruption.
On the ground if they are on their belly and fighting back up the I do a figure 4 leg lock that works a treat.
I just tried to find a photo but am struggling. I must admit I thought it was more common. But anyway figure four their legs and a calf cutter basicly.
8/20/2013 9:39am, #13
As they go on all fours and before they have a chance to reposition, one can then decide on all sorts of options: flatten them out (thoroughly, so they can't transition) and keep a hand on the back of each neck and a knee on each nearside upper arm or elbow until they smarten up or backup arrives (if you're in a venue with more than one bouncer).
Another finish, if they're shitfaced enough to be too slow to react to this: you can keep things simple by grabbing the backs of both belts and dog-walk the imbeciles (ass-first, they resist less that way) out the exit. If you have the backlift, you might save time by lifting and partially or totally carrying them out (again, they fight less if they're travelling ass-first). I prefer the partial carry, so that the idiots have to contend with the floor and thus have less time trying to find a way to tie up your legs. Many other choices are also available once initial positioning is established. (Doesn't that sound familiar?)
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8/20/2013 4:03pm, #14
great stuff! You guys should seriously post instructional videos for other bounces. I am not fucking kidding."We often joke -- and we really wish it were a joke -- that you will only encounter two basic problems with your 'self-defense' training.
1) That it doesn't work
2) That it does work"
8/21/2013 9:48am, #15
8/21/2013 10:21am, #16
I'd like to see that. One of the things my bro showed me (from another bouncer) was, from the back or side, to grab the back of the collar and the back of the belt, and pull back/down on the collar while pushing on the belt to break the posture and direct them into a walk, then if they try to lean forward to correct, you step your leg in front of theirs and dump them forward, or into a classical midget toss. I thought it looked sorta uchi-mata-ish.
8/21/2013 3:07pm, #17
You will betimes get some imbecile trying to push backwards with his feet in an attempt not to be (re)moved. Fortunately, one easy option is hoist him up and carry him out feet-first over a shoulder (not directly overhead in case he spews). As long as other patrons stay out of the way of the moron's kicking feet, he'll be out the exit in no time and--best of all--you'll have only a brief incident-report to write up before punching off-shift for the night.
8/21/2013 10:28pm, #18
8/22/2013 1:16pm, #19
So...how does one "break the posture" of someone who has you up in the air facing away from him?
8/22/2013 10:26pm, #20