Thread: Fun future AR-15 project
9/06/2013 7:41pm, #21
Good info, thanks. Luckily, I consider this a budget build. Not that I don't have the cash. I'm $200 in and figure I can get a fully functional weapon for under another $300 if I'm careful not to get to excited about parts. My chief concern is that it works reliably, so if the carbine buffer is good enough, then I can forgo the extra $5-insanity prices on additional weight or crazy recoil systems. I'm not relinquishing my man card anytime soon.
9/06/2013 10:22pm, #22
On the flip side though....I learned a lot doing my research and upgrading on my own.
9/06/2013 10:45pm, #23
Personally, I'm planning on buying nicer parts slowly. Or at least that's my plan until prices come down a little."No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal
9/07/2013 5:31am, #24
And, the added benefit of becoming a novice armorer may actually save me money in the long run, too.
My collection of tools (which my wife thinks excessive) now includes a ball peen hammer, punches, and snap-ring pliers - all things that I've wanted, but have managed to do without in the past. I also picked up this neat AR multi-tool: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
9/07/2013 4:15pm, #25
So I did a cost estimate spreadsheet, and it looks like I can piece out the entire rest of the Stag AR15 build for around $800, and have basically everything I want in a rifle, minus the optic. I also have no idea which butt stock I want, but the generic blackhawk milspec will do for now.
Of course, if I wasn't wronghanded, I wouldn't have to fork over 600 bucks for a decent lefty upper like this:
http://www.stagarms.com/model-3hl/"No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal
9/07/2013 4:25pm, #26
A great source for "desirable features" on an M4 and why they are so:
9/11/2013 5:50am, #27
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9/16/2013 8:46am, #28
So, I'm looking at this BCG: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=366068581
It seems to have all the right buzzwords - MPI, chrome lined, staked gas keys... and, the price seems good. Opinions?
9/16/2013 9:01am, #29
10/11/2013 10:02pm, #30
Well, I've gotten the first round of parts in and assembled my very first AR15 lower.
I did a few function checks and mag swaps using a friend's M&P15 upper, and it appears to be good to go. This bar none the most comfortable AR I have ever dry fired (thanks again to my friend for the loaner upper), so hopefully it will also be fun to shoot for real, once I get around to ordering the upper I've decided on -- notes on that below. For now, I thought I'd detail what I ended up going with. It is important to note that while I am not attempting to spend all the money, I am not overly worried about the budget for this first build. My goal is to create something that is basically mil spec 5.56, but comfortable for me to shoot. So here's what I've gone with so far:
Stag Arms Stripped Lower. You all know that already.
Stag Arms Ambi Lower Parts kit. The parts are really nice, but it ended up being a waste of money due to the fact that I ended up ordering so many extras. Next time I'll be a little more careful and go with individual parts, or an LPK - Fire Control Group.
Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pin Set:
BAD-Combat Ambidextrous Safety Selector:
ALG Defense ACT:
KNS Non Rotating Hammer and Trigger Pin Set
Troy Ambi Mag Release:
Troy Ambi Bolt Release:
Ergo 2 AR Grip:
And last but not least, the mag came from my friends at pdsrifles.com:
I haven't shot with these mags yet, but they work like a charm with my lower so far, empty and fully of 5.56.
Finally, I'm thinking about adding something in to give me a little more room in the trigger guard area, such as this:
I'm going to be straight with you: I've been firing right handed weapons for the better part of a decade. I have long since figured out how to work the bolt release and mag release as a left handed firer. The Troy doodads were just for fun. I'm def. going to keep the mag release, but I'm not 100% on the bolt release. The upgraded Pin Set and anti roll Fire Control Group pins are nice, but also not necessary, though they make things easier and nicer. The two MVPs of the upgrades I ordered from a plain jane LPK are the Ergo Grip and the ACT trigger. Incidentally, the Ergo Grip was recommended to me by the guy who stood up MARSOC's advanced sniper course, so . . . yeah. I just did what he said. MAGPULs CTR stock exceeded my expectations, and the the I Kick Hippies SLAP plate is both going to be awesome for transitions and a great conversation piece.
Onto the next portion of this gargantuan post. I've changed my mind a couple times about the direction I want to take the upper. I had it all figured out, then decided to go back to a piston system, since that would accomplish my goal of shooting left handed and not getting hit in the face with hot gasses also (what can I say, H&K416s will spoil you), and then decided to take a step back. So I thought about what I was going to do with my second AR15. And I decided I'm going to attempt to do a suppressed/SBR build in .300 Blackout, wife willing. So why waste my time on a 14.5" piston system, or with any of the carbine length options stag arms is offering in lefty. So I think I'm going to go in the opposite direction, but still get a lefty upper:
The reviews I've read of both the right handed and left handed versions are great. Also, keep in mind that I don't give a **** about the zombie apocalypse, so if someone tries to hijack my thread by berating me for wanting non-standard weapons with non-standard BCGs, I will strap them to a table, cover them in paper cuts, and dump lemon juice on them."No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal