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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    This document is a notable black belt confirming that said fees were indeed an issue and that this is not an isolated case.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    This is my initial convo with Carlos Gracie Jr where he denies all knowledge of such fees and denies knowing my coworker. Never happened? When one of his own black belts confirmed the exact same thing?
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    A secret meeting in New York. Did any of you guys hear about this?
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Lets see what my coworker has to say about it. He denies it at first, claiming that this is BTT's doing, but then admits its Carlos Gracie Jr when he's caught in a lie. Remember that another black belt, one who does not know Vinny, has already confirmed that this is Carlos at work.

    So yes, this is business, rank and sports fraud perpetrated by Carlos Gracie Jr and the association heads that report to him.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Can we just back up a bit. Are you saying that if you enter, you get drafted into a team and then that team will use you to close the division?

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    Not only would I have to change teams, or hand my team over, but I'd have to pay them for this privilege. In exchange, they'd recognize my rank. If I were to refuse, they wont recognize my rank, and will disqualify my team. Needless to say, I told these guys to **** off.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If you don't play ball with these guys, they start pulling out all sorts of paperwork. 2500 and control over your business and you're legit. You keep your business and you're "trash".
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Villain View Post
    Erm, you may want to spend more time in class and less time on the internet. You haven't been wondering what happened to your OTHER jiujitsu instructor?

    Well, then PSB, allow me to explain. This is gonna take a few posts, so sit tight.
    My back is hosed, can't lift a leg above waist level, I've missed any gym politics since about December.
    "Your body must be like a stone, your mind... like a meatloaf."

    Quote Originally Posted by strikistanian View Post
    DROP SEIONAGI ************! Except I don't know Judo, so it doesn't work, and he takes my back.
    Quote Originally Posted by Devil
    Why is it so goddamn hard to find a video of it? I've seen videos I'm pretty sure are alien spacecraft. But still no good Krav.

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    Sorry to hear that. **** went down in January. It was totally ridiculous.

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    It does sound pretty bullshitastic.
    "Your body must be like a stone, your mind... like a meatloaf."

    Quote Originally Posted by strikistanian View Post
    DROP SEIONAGI ************! Except I don't know Judo, so it doesn't work, and he takes my back.
    Quote Originally Posted by Devil
    Why is it so goddamn hard to find a video of it? I've seen videos I'm pretty sure are alien spacecraft. But still no good Krav.

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