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    It could. Issue is you have no control of the opposite side of his/her body. I experimented with it in Judo quite a bit. The timing has to be perfect with the two on one and uke has to be pretty clueless.

    De Ashi Barai works better. It's tough to do on a decent judoka, though. There are some nice duck under Kata Guruma like options plus sutemi waza available too.
    Not coincidentally, firemans/kata guruma and sacrifice throws are my bread-and-butter. But I have sworn off sutemi-waza for the foreseeable future, so I need other options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmonk View Post
    Not coincidentally, firemans/kata guruma and sacrifice throws are my bread-and-butter. But I have sworn off sutemi-waza for the foreseeable future, so I need other options.
    OK, I think you have noted your foregoing sutemi waza before. The do have a 12 step program for addict, you know !


    This assumes you get the two on one before they grab your lapel.

    So one I do sometimes and have attempted to teach, is to get the two on one, push it across their body (Imagine you would normally do a Sumi Gaeshi/Hikkomi Gaeshi variation), grab their belt (not judo, LOL) with the outside arm around their back, not over (this is for guys who don't bend over), and do the Sasae or something similar. You can get an underhook with your inside arm or not.

    This is a very swirly type throw. You may only get them down to the ground, but are in a strong position in any case when you land.

    BTW, I tend to use the above on lefties, as decent right handed judoka are not typically going to grab you like the guy in Josh's video.
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