8/23/2013 5:07am, #101
I'd think the odds of cleanly dropping him across your knee are slim-to-none, let alone actually breaking the spine. Head spike seems a lot higher percentage. It's a goofy throw for a basic curriculum either way, they've opted for a low-percentage grand-slam kill shot rather than a reliable take-down which you can then follow up.
8/23/2013 11:34am, #102
I think it might do more damage if you just slammed them into side control since they'd hit the hard ground and they'd fall an extra two feet or so without your knee to stop it and your weight would land on top.
8/23/2013 3:31pm, #103
This technique, as shown, looks awesome against a "jerry" just standing there in front of you. I have a hard time believing it would work against a dynamic adversary trying to seriously hurt me. On the other hand, I've seen something similar as a defense against a side headlock. I even pulled it off once against a high school wrestler who wasn't expecting the technique. No, I didn't finish with the back-break maneuver. It worked partly because it was unexpected, and partly because the opponent was, indeed, standing still (much like the picture has the "Natzi" stock still) as he tried to control me. I can't swear an opponent wouldn't be able to continue, because we were friends and just fooling around. But the motion worked against someone actively working against me.
8/23/2013 4:10pm, #104
Bane back breaking Batman was bunk in the movie. Look at all the drama implied by the exploding monchromatic background and jagged text! In the movie I had to explain to my girlfriend that Bane broke his back and that's why Batman was wincing from such a casual looking attack.
8/23/2013 5:14pm, #105
8/23/2013 5:46pm, #106
As far as breaking someone's spine goes, well, I think that would be pretty hard to do. The spinal column is pretty flexible, and bends the direction of the attempted break. There are some techniques in judo kata that involve dropping a person backwards (take a look at goshin jutsu, and especially Koshiki No Kata, where you can imagine dropping uke onto you knee.
Hoisting a guy up when you and he probably are wearing combat gear (modern body armor today, WW2 battle kit of various sorts) seems to me to be tough to do. Too much stuff to get in the way/get hung up on.
Even Sukui Nage doesn't involve that much of a lift, but uses a scooping action/principle.
The angle is really wrong to drop someone on your knee. Dropping a guy on the back of his head, though, is pretty easy to do if you use good follow-through. A guy loaded down with gear will have harder time getting to his feet off his back, and will perhaps tip backwards easier than someone not loaded.Falling for Judo since 1980
8/23/2013 6:20pm, #107
Chair and knife:
"Most lion tamers consider a small chair to be sufficient to keep a lion from attacking them. Should you be so fortunate as to have a chair handy when your opponent is attacking you with a knife, seize the chair as in Fig. 72. Rush at him, jabbing one or more of the legs of the chair into his body. The odds in favor of your overpowering your opponent are roughly three to one, and well worth taking (Fig. 73)."
I really doubt Fairbairn's 3-to-1 odds in this situation and wonder how he got that figure (number of table legs vs number of knives?). It would seem that the knifer in this scenario could use Fairbairn's own knife method (left lead to create openings) to yank the chair to the side and attack. I've never done any sort of training with or against a chair though. I reckon if the odds were so massively in favor of the chair wielder then one would be better off bringing a chair to a knife fight than a knife, and that just doesn't seem true at all.
8/23/2013 6:28pm, #108
Chair has obvious portability problems as a side-arm...
I can see using a chair to pin a guy against a wall or something, but that diagram lacks the answer to the obvious question "I've lightly bruised jerry with the chair leg in the belly, what the **** now?"
8/23/2013 6:28pm, #109
My first judo instructor was a master gunnery sgt in the USMC, and he taught a lot of self defense along with regular Judo. He went into the corp right at the end of WW2, but the war was over just as he was ready to deploy. He ended up as a POW camp guard on Guam holding Japanese accused of war crimes.
When we were working on knife defenses, his first advice was to use anything we had at hand to put between us and the knife wielder...he suggested everything from a book to a chair, lunch tray, etc, to keep distance.
I think using improvised weapons would be important, be it a chair, shovel, tree limb, so in principle I think Fairbairn's advice to use a chair is sound. One thing to remember is that soldiers were not likely to be facing highly trained knife fighters.Falling for Judo since 1980
8/27/2013 8:04pm, #110
I learned something -- that's a good thing!