7/21/2013 10:52am, #21
Something some folks don't understand about SWAT's role in warrant execution is that it's not SWAT who gets the warrant or searches the house. During a warrant all SWAT's role is is to enter and secure the place being searched. Once that is accomplished the scene is turned over to detectives and regular patrol to continue their investigation.
There's also an important distinction between a conversation regarding the use of tactical teams and regular patrol officers wearing ACU's. Most SWAT teams are part time affairs staffed by regular officers who suit up only when needed.
7/21/2013 1:13pm, #22
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Phrost, you'd have an aneurysm if you took a look inside my buddy's patrol vehicle. He's a former Marine sniper working for the Sheriff's Dept. He's part of the tactical team and they serve felony warrants nonstop in a rural county.
They take full advantage of his skill set and he's equipped with all the gear he needs to provide surveillance and cover in a rural environment, right down to the ghillie suit.
I get just as angry as the next guy when I'm watching the news and see a botched or over zealous police raid. But as far as the discussion about how the community should be served - I'm confident in my buddy's case and in many other cases the community wants them doing this work. The Sheriff is elected and motivated by self interest. If the local citizens were upset it would stop. They want these raids. They just want them done right.
7/21/2013 1:28pm, #23
My question is when LEOs raid the wrong place the people who where cuffed and put on the floor face down for 2 hours asks who or what org or dept. do you work for? Are the LEOs required to ID themselves ? This happened to a friend of mine. A user was caught holding and the deal was point out your suppler and we let you go. They drove this "kid" around for hours before he pointed out my friend's home. No drugs or stolen property were found. No sorries or contact this number for the damage done. Joe
7/21/2013 1:42pm, #24
When it comes to getting warrants it again depends on how the police there do things. A person can go before a judge and swear that he saw/purchased drugs at a house and the judge can issue a warrant based on that testimony. I like to have an actual purchase of drugs from a house before I get a warrant....surprise, surprise some people like to lie that they saw drugs at an enemy's house in order to get a combination of cooperation with the police and revenge.
7/22/2013 2:06am, #25
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Kudos to Phrost for linking to that Tiabbi article. Just goes to show that if you're big enough and high up enough, you are virtually immune to prosecution. The real deal isn't so much whether cops wear camo, but whether HSBC is still laundering drug money for the cartels - and who is turning a blind eye.
7/22/2013 5:42am, #26
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7/22/2013 6:39am, #27
6/25/2014 9:28am, #28
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Found this on NPR this morning: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ntent=20140625
Among the ACLU's findings:
— 62 percent of SWAT raids were for the purpose of conducting drug searches.
— Just 7 percent of SWAT raids were "for hostages, barricade, or active shooter scenarios."
— SWAT raids are directed disproportionately against people of color — 30 percent of the time the "race of individual people impacted" was black, 11 percent of the time Latino, 20 percent white and 30 percent unknown.
— Armored personnel vehicles that local law enforcement agencies have received through grants from the Department of Homeland Security are most commonly used for drug raids and not school shootings and terrorist situations.
— In cases in which police cited the possible presence of a weapon in the home as a reason for utilizing a SWAT team, weapons were found only 35 percent of the time.
6/25/2014 2:15pm, #29
Well that's pretty damning.
6/25/2014 5:08pm, #30