I think I get what you mean man. My brother and I, we(I) had to run allot growing up. Kids hated us, being military brats.
Originally Posted by peteofred
Once we stood and fought back, it all stopped, and since we lived on base it was easy at night. Once we lived OFF base, I became a runner, unless one dude, but most of us hung with friends. Sometimes our choices of friends paid off, other times...chose poorly.
I wrestled as a kid, so it was so natural to just take em down and beat on them, squeeze the neck real hard and run away.
Never had a mob after me, so shitting my pants would be in order, I cannot fathom taking on more than one, perhaps two if impaired. I would be running rather than squeezing and snapping. Now, **** em, they are gonna get shot at. (Can I say that?)
With all this talk of stomping are we talking this?? :
Although I suppose ground fighting could be dangerous under the right conditions. :
I agree, **** em, do what you have to. Ultimately it's you or them right?
Originally Posted by -TANK-
Here's the part I don't get about the "I know the REAL streets; you can't go to the ground there!" crowd: going to the ground when an opponent has a gang of friends is as stupid as fighting at all with an opponent who has a gang of friends. So, it seems like a bit of a moot point. Also, saying "don't get taken down!" is about as useful as telling a boxer "punch, but don't get punched!".
Remember when krav and ninjutsu and RBSD guys fought in the old UFC and NHB matches? I don't remember a single one who could stuff takedowns from ONE opponent, so I'm pretty skeptical of advice from similar guys who tell you how to avoid exponentially more takedown trouble.
In a college self defense class taught by a judo guy, we played a game where groups of four try to take down one person, who tries to flee. If the "attackers" had enough coordination to pick a limb, cling, and deadweight it, they'd be taken down soon enough.
Last edited by Permalost; 7/09/2013 4:26pm at .
hell, we did it as a zombie game, where the attackers have to move slowly, and they'd still always win.
Originally Posted by Permalost
This thread keeps making me think of a Discovery channel special on pack hunters.
"Sadly now, there can be but one outcome".
Last edited by W. Rabbit; 7/09/2013 6:31pm at .
Moti Horenstein stuffed the first shot from Mark Coleman. But then Coleman brought the Hammer down:
I don't remember a single one who could stuff takedowns from ONE opponent, so I'm pretty skeptical of advice from similar guys who tell you how to avoid exponentially more takedown trouble.
By the way, it should be noted that you don't need to be trained in grappling to end up in a grappling situation:
Also, a striking pedigree may not be enough to keep yourself from being taken to the ground by an untrained opponent:
Also, if your opponent is the second incarnation of Mike Tyson in his prime and is beating the ever living hell out of you standing, why not try to tackle him? Because he has friends?
Run, run, run! If you can't run, hit and run! Then repeat until you get away. If you don't get away, your name is now Nancy, you belong to them. If they let you live you do their laundry, cook their meals, and darn their socks. Life choices can be so hard!
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