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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    Okay, as someone who has been doing Judo and TKD for a long time, I wanted to start doing some sorta knife training for fun. I did an intro to Pekiti Tirsia a few weeks back and found a local instructor who studied under Bill McGrath so I wanted to see what it was like. It seemed interesting and considering there isn't much in the way of FMA or other knife fighting in my area, it may be my only choice.
    Like every other martial art it is heavily dependent on the instructor. PTK in the US is taught through different curriculum depending on lineage and what GT Gaje was focusing on at the time, but the fundamental methods remain the same.

    PTK is known for its knife work, some groups can get too drill centric, but even if that particular school does over do it with drilling, it will provide a comprehensive exposure to weapon based arts. I do like to look for schools that get beyond the drills and work on sparring regularly.

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    I feel like you eyeballin' me, dawg!
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    Thanks for the info guys. The fact that they spar at this place has me hooked already. They are small classes (between 4 and 8 students), so if the technique isn't being applied properly, Mike, the instructor, makes sure to show you the right one.

    He's definitely part of Pekiti Tirsia International and came highly recommended from a few people I know, due to how he teaches and the fact that he is one of Bill McGrath's students.

    http://www.pekititirsia.net/

    Good times so far.
    I feel like you eye-bawlin' me, dawg!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander View Post
    If it's under McGrath, you could learn some good stuff.

    If it's under Gaje's PTK Global Org...I'd avoid it. I find the environment to be unhealthy psychologically.
    Truth be told, there are quite a few Pekiti Tirsia instuctors who could teach you a lot of good stuff. Others, not so much. No organization has a corner on good, or poor instructors.

    The PTK Global Org is too big and wide ranging to be considered "an environment", and to have a homogenous psychological profile it would have to be smaller and more cult like. GT Gaje likes to talk and write and it is easy to perceive the wrong idea but he just loves what he does and it is infectious.

    Lastly, despite what you would like to believe, the system is still solidly in place in the military and police training in the Philippines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Pepper View Post
    I watched one of Tim Waid's DVDs. At first, I was going to make a drinking game out of every time he used the word "execute", but realized I'd get obliterated pretty damn quickly.
    Ha! He does tend to throw that one around quite a bit in his vids, perhaps a hold over from his background as a US Marine and his time teaching the Filipino Marines?

    Regardless, and to include his recent situations vis-a-vie G. Tuhon Gaje, the questions I always wonder about are "can he do it" and "can he teach others to do it". From what I have seen from him, and the attitude from him and his instructors notwithstanding, the answer seems to be yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    Thanks for the info guys. The fact that they spar at this place has me hooked already. They are small classes (between 4 and 8 students), so if the technique isn't being applied properly, Mike, the instructor, makes sure to show you the right one.

    He's definitely part of Pekiti Tirsia International and came highly recommended from a few people I know, due to how he teaches and the fact that he is one of Bill McGrath's students.

    http://www.pekititirsia.net/

    Good times so far.
    Looks like it should be a good place to train. There are definite differences in the way that Tuhon McGrath teaches PTK and some who have come later such as Tuhon Waid, Wighoni, etc. However, there is no doubt that Tuhon McGrath believes in hard training, sparring, and real world application.

    Several years ago I was moving which forced me to find another place to train. I had the opportunity at a seminar to ask Dan Inosanto his opinion. The choices were between one of his old time students and someone who was ranked as a Master Instructor under Bill McGrath. Without hesitation, Guro Dan told me "go there, Tuhon McGrath is excellent".

    All in all, I think you are up for a good time and solid training.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwinch2 View Post
    Ha! He does tend to throw that one around quite a bit in his vids, perhaps a hold over from his background as a US Marine and his time teaching the Filipino Marines?
    I expect it's because it sounds military/operator and there's money to be made. Same with why he wears military-styled clothing in the videos. There's an image being marketed.

    I have no opinion on his skills, but like every other person trying to make a buck, branding is an important part of marketing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Pepper View Post
    I expect it's because it sounds military/operator and there's money to be made. Same with why he wears military-styled clothing in the videos. There's an image being marketed.

    I have no opinion on his skills, but like every other person trying to make a buck, branding is an important part of marketing.
    Perhaps the truth is somewhere in the middle. To be fair to the man, he has spent the last several years teaching to people in exactly those settings and had several years in the USMC prior to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    Thanks for the info guys. The fact that they spar at this place has me hooked already. They are small classes (between 4 and 8 students), so if the technique isn't being applied properly, Mike, the instructor, makes sure to show you the right one.

    He's definitely part of Pekiti Tirsia International and came highly recommended from a few people I know, due to how he teaches and the fact that he is one of Bill McGrath's students.

    http://www.pekititirsia.net/

    Good times so far.

    So, it has almost been a year. Are you still training PTK? If so, how is it going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Pepper View Post
    I watched one of Tim Waid's DVDs. At first, I was going to make a drinking game out of every time he used the word "execute", but realized I'd get obliterated pretty damn quickly.
    Or "combat"

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