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    7/01/2013 8:22pm

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    Combat Sambo vs boxing + judo

    Which of the following would be better for self-defense:

    Combat Sambo or boxing + judo



    Thanks.
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    Combat Sambo is very close to boxing + Judo, with striking into the clinch and GnP/leglocks as an added bonus. Go with whichever is the better instruction and you enjoy more, a reasonable experience of either/any will make you a buzz saw compared to the average jerkoff and training for "self defence" is basically a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    ... and training for "self defence" is basically a waste of time.
    Care to elaborate?
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    Depends on who is teaching what. Combat Sambo can range from this:



    to Fedor Emelianenko.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChokeAJudoka View Post
    Care to elaborate?
    I guess that he means a trained Boxer, Judoka or Sambo practitioner would be better prepared than the average Joe for a lot of situation. Anything above that probably won't be covered by any part time training
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickosaurus View Post
    I guess that he means a trained Boxer, Judoka or Sambo practitioner would be better prepared than the average Joe for a lot of situation. Anything above that probably won't be covered by any part time training
    Not really, I meant more that, unless you live Beyond Thunderdrome, the odds of being hurt in any training sufficiently serious to give you a fighting edge way, way outstrip the odds of being set upon by roving gangs of ruffians. That's before we even get to the chances that being a good fighter actually helps the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    Not really, I meant more that, unless you live Beyond Thunderdrome, the odds of being hurt in any training sufficiently serious to give you a fighting edge way, way outstrip the odds of being set upon by roving gangs of ruffians. That's before we even get to the chances that being a good fighter actually helps the situation.
    I agree that self-defense should not be the only reason you train. Once you understand what martial arts are for, it should be the last thing on your mind. Still, to say it doesn't help is a giant, desperate reach. "Roving gangs of ruffians" are a rare scenario for the "average Joe." School bullies, aggressive coworkers and bar room drunks are much more common, and in those circumstances, basic self-defense skills are key. I've been there, I can testify.

    As can this guy, who had no problem with a "gang of ruffians" because of his Boxing sport skills.

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    I didn't say it wouldn't help, I said a rational cost-benefit analysis of training just for self defence would show the injury risk as outweighing the likely pay-off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    I didn't say it wouldn't help, I said a rational cost-benefit analysis of training just for self defence would show the injury risk as outweighing the likely pay-off.
    As a practitioner of a primarily SD-oriented art, I honestly agree that self-defence probably shouldn't be on the top three reasons you train there. Honestly, the reason I do it is because it's fun, I have a ton of friends in the group and it's a workout, not because I'm planning to get into a streetfight. I'm sure that I'm better prepared for that sort of situation now then I was 9 months ago, but people who practice the civilian SD stuff and think they're gonna go out and kick ass are kidding themselves.

    /Erik

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