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    Okinawans call them Yakusoku. A bit of a mixed bag but common enough.


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    Here's 2 of my old training partners performing a CLF dagger vs empty hand form:


    Compared to weapon work in FMA, I find this sort of thing to be "the wrong kind of complicated". There's more emphasis on correct execution of a very long sequence than thought given in the actual applications IMO.

    I don't think CMA 2 person forms and FMA 2 person drills are especially similar. Some FMA drills are far less formally structured, and represent free flowing "logic chains" over pre-sequenced forearm banging.

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    There are an enormous number of two-person drills in CMA. But I agree that FMA works better than a lot of other TMAs, mainly because it involves hitting people with fucking sticks. That **** works. Let me drop a little tiger wisdom on youse guys:


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    I quite enjoy FMA 2 man sets, definitely (in general) much more directly applicable to combat than other TMA I've trained (and I do one of the more TMA-ish flavours of FMA).

    2 man drills as I used to do them:



    2 man drills as I do them now:


    EDIT: Just to be clear, neither of these clips is from a club I have trained with.

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    The difference I see with what has been presented from the TMAs is that in the FMAs if you don"t block you"ll get hit. Found come old school Doce Pares
    My first try at linking a video failed hope this one works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KendalGuro View Post
    The difference I see with what has been presented from the TMAs is that in the FMAs if you don"t block you"ll get hit.
    We get hit but with shinai and bogu its not so bad.

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    Great replies guys. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post



    I don't think CMA 2 person forms and FMA 2 person drills are especially similar. Some FMA drills are far less formally structured, and represent free flowing "logic chains" over pre-sequenced forearm banging.
    I never leaned that 2 person forms were supposed to be analogous to drills even within CMA.
    Our drills were typically only a few moves long but fairly structured, more like kick-boxing combinations etc.
    Of course there are also push-hands-ish exercises in CLF and Hung Kuen that are more free flowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KendalGuro View Post
    The difference I see with what has been presented from the TMAs is that in the FMAs if you don"t block you"ll get hit.
    To be fair I did get hit loads of times during bunkai when I did Goju Ryu, I think sticks are just faster, hurt more and the "buzzing" keeps you on your toes.

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