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  1. JohnKenner is offline

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    I have screen shot his old website - pulled from google cache - with the original claims intact.
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    Posted On:
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    Clearly, Joseph is reading this thread.

    The amended claims on his website and the fact that his Linked In profile disappeared shortly after being referenced here indicates that he is paying attention.

    Kyoshi/Joseph, please respond to these allegations.

    Provide details regarding your MA background, kickboxing championship and your certification to give advice on diet and nutrition.
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    Mr. Louf is now aware of this thread:

    "Mr. Louf,
    I'm writing to you today to make you aware of an ongoing investigation into your background and ATD MMA in Beverly, MA.
    There are a number of unverified claims made on your website regarding your experience as a martial artist and your training as a certified dietitian & nutritionist.
    A user named KyoshiConcept has attempted to substantiate some of the facts surrounding your background, but he has left the community more confused than before.
    Perhaps you could sign on and clear up the air regarding your training history and experience?

    The thread I am referencing can be found here:

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121108

    Any assistance you can provide in verifying this information would be appreciated.

    Regards,
    GBJJ"
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    Posted On:
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    Thanks for helping me look into this Bullshido members. Goshin I got your messages, I don't think I have enough posts to PM :(.
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    No sweat, Jshin. Hopefully Mr. Louf comes here himself to clear all this up.

    Not holding my breath.... :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshin View Post
    Thanks for helping me look into this Bullshido members. Goshin I got your messages, I don't think I have enough posts to PM :(.
    Other than the Lauzon facebook page - have you had any interaction with ATDMMA? Also are you in competition with them (do you have a school etc)? Do you have any other axes to grind?

    I ask because, well, we trust - but we verify. :)

    Also, no reply from Master Toddy at this point.
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    No axes to grind. I just am a fan of Joe Lauzon and saw the flaming going on after his comment so, I decided to dig a little deeper.
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    Posted On:
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    It would seem as though Mr. Louf has made the wise choice to remove any and all references to ATT and his "certification" as a Dietitian and Nutritionist.

    http://www.atdmma.com/americantotaldefense.html


    At least some good has come out of this thread....

    Note that he still claims to be teaching BJJ/MT at his school, which as far as I can tell, he is not qualified to teach.

    It would be great if KyoshiCon....er.... Joe would come here himself to explain why he feels compelled to list these arts on his webpage when it seems like he is only qualified to teach XMA (assuming is qualified to teach that to begin with, not that anyone here gives a **** about XMA).

    Anyway... if an admin wants to put this to bed, let me know. I'll forward along all the materials I've gathered in this investigation.

    I, for one, am confident in claiming that ADT MMA is complete Bullshido (but that's just my opinion, feel free to draw your own conclusions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by goshinbudoJJ View Post
    It would seem as though Mr. Louf has made the wise choice to remove any and all references to ATT and his "certification" as a Dietitian and Nutritionist.

    http://www.atdmma.com/americantotaldefense.html


    At least some good has come out of this thread....

    Note that he still claims to be teaching BJJ/MT at his school, which as far as I can tell, he is not qualified to teach.

    It would be great if KyoshiCon....er.... Joe would come here himself to explain why he feels compelled to list these arts on his webpage when it seems like he is only qualified to teach XMA (assuming is qualified to teach that to begin with, not that anyone here gives a **** about XMA).

    Anyway... if an admin wants to put this to bed, let me know. I'll forward along all the materials I've gathered in this investigation.

    I, for one, am confident in claiming that ADT MMA is complete Bullshido (but that's just my opinion, feel free to draw your own conclusions).
    I've yet to hear back from Master Toddy - but I do have all the old screen shots of his site in the various stages of his claims. And screen shots from the various governmental agencies we searched.

    I'm happy to lend assistance to writing this up, if IiF et al desire.
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    6/25/2013 7:14pm


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    Here is ATD MMA facebook page in case y'all need it.

    https://www.facebook.com/ATDMMA
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